Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/11/2008 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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                  SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                     February 11, 2008                                                                                          
                         9:04 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman called the Senate  Finance Committee meeting                                                                   
to order at 9:04:33 AM.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Josh Fink,  Director, Office  of Public Advocacy,  Department                                                                   
of Administration;  Tom  Chapple, Director,  Division of  Air                                                                   
and Water Quality, Department  of Environmental Conservation;                                                                   
Lynn  Kent,  Director,  Division   of  Water,  Department  of                                                                   
Environmental Conservation                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Karen  Rehfeld, Director,  Office of  Management and  Budget;                                                                   
Eric Swanson, Director, Division  of Administrative Services,                                                                   
Department  of   Administration;  Samuel  Thomas,   Director,                                                                   
Division of Administrative Services,  Department of Commerce,                                                                   
Community and Economic Development;  Chris Christensen, Staff                                                                   
Counsel,   Alaska  Court   System;   Larry  Cohn,   Executive                                                                   
Director,  Alaska  Judicial  Council,  Alaska  Court  System;                                                                   
Sharleen  Griffin,   Director,  Division  of   Administrative                                                                   
Services, Department  of Corrections;  Mike Maher,  Director,                                                                   
Division of Administrative Services,  Department of Revenue;,                                                                   
Laura  Baker,   Budget  Chief,  Division   of  Administrative                                                                   
Services,  Department of  Health and  Social Services;  Craig                                                                   
Tillery, Deputy Attorney General,  Department of Law; Richard                                                                   
Svobodny,   Deputy  Attorney   General,  Criminal   Division,                                                                   
Department  of  Law;  Leta  Simons,   Director,  Division  of                                                                   
Support  Services,  Department  of  Natural  Resources;  Mark                                                                   
Lewis,  Director,  Administrative   Services,  Department  of                                                                   
Education  and  Early  Development;   Tom  Lawson,  Director,                                                                   
Administrative  Services, Department  of Fish  and Game;  Guy                                                                   
Bell,  Assistant  Commissioner   and  Director,  Division  of                                                                   
Administrative  Services, Department  of Labor and  Workforce                                                                   
Development; Gail Fenumiai, Director,  Division of Elections,                                                                   
Office of the  Lieutenant Governor; Jerry  Burnett, Director,                                                                   
Division of  Administrative Services, Department  of Revenue;                                                                   
Dan Spencer,  Director, Division of Administrative  Services,                                                                   
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 256    "An   Act   making   supplemental   appropriations,                                                                   
          capital   appropriations,  re-appropriations,   and                                                                   
          other     appropriations;      amending     certain                                                                   
          appropriations;  ratifying   certain  expenditures;                                                                   
          making  appropriations  to  capitalize  funds;  and                                                                   
          providing for an effective date."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          SB 256 was heard and HELD in Committee for further                                                                    
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 256                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  making  supplemental  appropriations,  capital                                                                   
     appropriations,     re-appropriations,     and     other                                                                   
     appropriations;    amending   certain    appropriations;                                                                   
     ratifying  certain expenditures;  making  appropriations                                                                   
     to  capitalize funds;  and  providing  for an  effective                                                                   
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  stated that  the total of the  supplemental                                                                   
budget is $257 million, with $205 million in general funds.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:05:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  REHFELD, DIRECTOR,  OFFICE OF  MANAGEMENT AND  BUDGET,                                                                   
noted the significant components  of SB 256: $125 million Oil                                                                   
and Gas  Tax Credit  Fund, Senior  Benefits Payment  Program,                                                                   
and the General Government Unit (GGU) contracts.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:06:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 10-12     Court System     Capital                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Build chambers  for new Fairbanks Supreme  Court Justice                                                                   
     and offices for staff.                            $629.7                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  CHRISTENSEN,  STAFF  COUNSEL,   ALASKA  COURT  SYSTEM,                                                                   
addressed the  capital supplemental request  for construction                                                                   
on  the  fifth  floor  of  the   Rabinowitz  Court  House  in                                                                   
Fairbanks.   It was supposed to  have a fast  track effective                                                                   
date, but  was given  an incorrect date.   The Supreme  Court                                                                   
regularly  travels to  Juneau  and Fairbanks  to hear  cases.                                                                   
The court currently has a member  working in Juneau, and from                                                                   
1965 until 1997 had a member working  in Fairbanks.  When the                                                                   
legislature authorized  the lease purchase of  the Rabinowitz                                                                   
Court House  ten years ago, the  design called for  only four                                                                   
floors, with  the fifth floor an  empty shell to be  used for                                                                   
future  expansion.    Last  year   Governor  Palin  appointed                                                                   
Supreme Court Justice  Daniel Winfry, and he is  using a room                                                                   
that will  soon be  filled by  a superior  court judge.   Mr.                                                                   
Christianson  requested  the   money  from  the  supplemental                                                                   
budget in order to begin construction on this project.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Court System      Judicial Council                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Additional applicant  evaluation costs due  to increased                                                                   
     number  of vacant  judgeships.   The FY09  budget has  a                                                                   
     corresponding increase of $64.5.                   $63.6                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LARRY  COHN,  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  JUDICIAL  COUNCIL,                                                                   
ALASKA COURT SYSTEM, reported  that this was the Alaska Court                                                                   
System's first  supplemental budget  request in more  than 25                                                                   
years.   The request  is driven  by the  fact that  there has                                                                   
been  a very  high rate  of judicial  vacancies.   The  Court                                                                   
System's budget  anticipated four vacancies  a year.   So far                                                                   
in  FY   08,  there   are  eight   vacancies  and   more  are                                                                   
anticipated.  This  request would enable the  Court System to                                                                   
fill the vacancies  and not have to defer them  into the next                                                                   
fiscal year, leaving  positions vacant.  The  legislature has                                                                   
been concerned about  case disposition times.   This would be                                                                   
a  cheap  investment  toward allowing  cases  to  be  decided                                                                   
quickly.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 9:10:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 1-3     Multiple      GGU                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Ratified  bargaining   unit  agreement  costs   for  the                                                                   
     General  Government Unit.  4% wage  increase and  health                                                                   
     insurance increase of $16.58 from $863.20 to $879.78                                                                       
                                                    $24,234.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  addressed  additional  costs  for  the  General                                                                   
Government Unit due  to a 4 percent wage increase  and health                                                                   
insurance increase.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ERIC SWANSON, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT   OF   ADMINISTRATION,   further   discussed   the                                                                   
ratification  of  the  bargaining unit  contracts  which  are                                                                   
retroactive to July 1, 2007, which led to additional costs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 Sections 4-6     Multiple     ETS Net Zero Supplemental                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Funds  previously  distributed   to  state  agencies  to                                                                   
     offset   increased  chargeback   rates  for   enterprise                                                                   
     technology  services  as  identified  in  the  statewide                                                                   
     federal cost  allocation plan are redistributed  to more                                                                   
     closely align with costs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     From:  DOA (406.2);  Labor  (216.5); and  DOR (161.3)  =                                                                   
     (784.0)                                                                                                                    
     To: DCCED 32.3; DOC 63.9;  DEC 45.2; F&G 77.2; Gov 25.0;                                                                   
     HSS 190.5; Law 48.7; DMVA  13.6; DNR 67.3; DPS 75.4; DOT                                                                   
     117.6; and Legislature 27.3 = 784.0                 $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson explained  the request  to redistribute  funding                                                                   
that had previously been appropriated  for increased costs of                                                                   
enterprise technology services  chargeback.  When the current                                                                   
allocation plan was prepared, a redistribution was needed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 Sections 7-9    Administration    Office of Public Advocacy                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Current   projections   indicate    OPA   will   require                                                                   
     supplemental  funding  in  the  amount  of  $2,400.0  to                                                                   
     operate through FY2008. Caseload  growth has gone beyond                                                                   
     anybody's expectation. OPA  has seen a significant spike                                                                   
     in  case assignments  in Anchorage  and Palmer.  OPA has                                                                   
     also  seen   a  number  of  the  more   complicated  and                                                                   
     expensive  cases go  to trial (cold  cases and  numerous                                                                   
     murder  cases).  While  OPA  projected  an  increase  in                                                                   
     felony  cases  of  12%  statewide  based  on  a  5  year                                                                   
     average,  in Anchorage OPA  has seen  a 43% increase  in                                                                   
     felony filings  in the first half of FY2008  compared to                                                                   
     last year.  On the  higher level crimes,  OPA saw  a 48%                                                                   
     increase in  unclassified cases  and a 158%  increase in                                                                   
     felonies.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     There  are $90.0  excess guardianship  fees receipts  in                                                                   
     FY2008,  which will be  used to fund  a portion  of this                                                                   
     supplemental.                                   $2,400.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Administration     Public Defender Agency                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Current  projections   indicate  the  PD   will  require                                                                   
     supplemental funding in the  amount of $820.0 to operate                                                                   
     through  FY2008.  The  PD  has  experienced  significant                                                                   
     increases in case load of  a variety of types throughout                                                                   
     the much of the state in  the first quarter of FY2008 as                                                                   
     compared  to the  same period  in  FY2007. In  Anchorage                                                                   
     felonies  are up  2%  and misdemeanors  are  up 19%.  In                                                                   
     Southcentral  Alaska felonies  are up 12%,  misdemeanors                                                                   
     are up  19%, child in  need of aid  (CINA) cases  are up                                                                   
     82%, while  in Southwest Alaska those cases  are up 30%,                                                                   
     21%, and 85% respectively.                        $820.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson spoke  about a request for general  funds for the                                                                   
Office  of  Public  Advocacy  and  for  the  Public  Defender                                                                   
Agency.   He  explained  that both  of  the agencies  require                                                                   
additional funding  because of larger case loads.   Also, the                                                                   
Public Defender  Agency has  recently become more  aggressive                                                                   
at identifying potential conflicts  in cases early on.  Those                                                                   
cases get  deferred to the Office  of Public Advocacy.   Many                                                                   
cases  have  to be  assigned  to  a private  sector  contract                                                                   
attorney and  are more  expensive.  There  have been  a large                                                                   
number of higher cost cases.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:14:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section  28(a)   Debt:  Debt  Service  Administration   Lease                                                                   
                                         Financing $(2,907.9)                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Atwood parking garage debt:  $3,443,000 was appropriated                                                                   
     in HB 95, Sec 30(m) for FY08.   Only one debt payment in                                                                   
     the  amount  of $535,105.53  will  be  made in  FY08,  a                                                                   
     reduction  of $2,907,894  from the  maximum amount  that                                                                   
     had originally been estimated.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson  related  that  a   previous  request  for  debt                                                                   
retirement for the Atwood parking  garage was excessive.  The                                                                   
amount   of  debt  retirement   for  the   current  year   is                                                                   
$535,105.53 and  the appropriation  should be reduced  to the                                                                   
necessary amount.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked about  the Office of Public  Advocacy                                                                   
amount,  which he  thought  would be  substantially  smaller.                                                                   
Mr. Swanson deferred to Mr. Fink to answer.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:16:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSH FINK,  DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF PUBLIC ADVOCACY,  DEPARTMENT                                                                   
OF  ADMINISTRATION,  explained   the  justification  for  the                                                                   
request.   Earlier  this year  there were a  number of  cases                                                                   
with conflicts of interest, such  as the one that, on the eve                                                                   
of  trial,  the  public  defender   recognized  that  he  had                                                                   
represented  the victim.   In another  case witnesses  had to                                                                   
"conflict out".   These were  high-end cases, and  the public                                                                   
defender  decided  to direct  all  of  the attorneys  to  re-                                                                   
analyze all cases  for conflict, resulting in  a large number                                                                   
with conflicts.   He provided statistics  regarding increases                                                                   
in case  loads, especially  felonies.   This resulted  in the                                                                   
need to use expensive, private contractors.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas noted  that the  increases are  not due  to a                                                                   
population  increase.   He wondered  if  there was  a way  to                                                                   
gather information  about why there  was such an  increase in                                                                   
felonies and  effect a change.   Mr. Fink replied  that there                                                                   
is a new case management system  that is gathering that data.                                                                   
He added that some laws regarding  misdemeanors/felonies have                                                                   
changed.   He reported that  he does  not have solid  data on                                                                   
the issue.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:19:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked about the status of  bargaining units                                                                   
other  than  GGU and  possible  requests  for funding.    Ms.                                                                   
Rehfeld  reported that  the Department  of Administration  is                                                                   
working  with those  bargaining  units.   She predicted  that                                                                   
there would be more requests this session.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:20:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Commerce   AK Energy Authority PCE                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Fully fund  PCE by increasing the program  $1,200.0 from                                                                   
     $26,760.0  to  $27,960.0 due  to  the increase  in  fuel                                                                   
     costs.                                          $1,200.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SAMUEL   THOMAS,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC                                                                   
DEVELOPMENT,  explained a  request to  fully fund the  Alaska                                                                   
Energy Authority Power Cost Equalization  (PCE) by increasing                                                                   
the program by $1.2 million due to higher fuel costs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Commerce   Banking and Securities                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Estimated legal  and administrative hearing  costs above                                                                   
     the funding  level of  the fiscal  note for Chapter  50,                                                                   
     SLA2007 (HB162  - Mortgage Bill).  At the  time the bill                                                                   
     was passed  it was agreed with the legislature  that, if                                                                   
     necessary,  these additional costs  would be  sought for                                                                   
     FY08.                                             $95.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas addressed the request  for funding estimated legal                                                                   
and administrative  hearing costs above the  funding level of                                                                   
the fiscal note for HB 162, a mortgage bill.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Commerce      Insurance                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Estimated legal  and administrative hearing  costs above                                                                   
     funding level.                                    $140.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas explained  the request related to  estimated legal                                                                   
and   administrative   hearing   costs  above   funding   for                                                                   
insurance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:26:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Commerce     Regulatory Commission of AK                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Unexpected high,  ongoing costs of major  litigation are                                                                   
     exceeding FY07  supplemental and FY08  operating funding                                                                   
     amounts.     In  the past,  some  litigation costs  were                                                                   
     funded  by  not filling  positions.  This  is no  longer                                                                   
     possible  due to expanding  case load, recently  imposed                                                                   
     statutory  deadlines,  and   dramatic  loss  of  tenured                                                                   
     advisory staff.                                   $500.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas spoke about the unexpected  high, ongoing costs of                                                                   
major litigation.  He related  that there were expanding case                                                                   
loads,  recently imposed  statutory  deadlines,  and loss  of                                                                   
tenured staff.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:27:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 10-12     Commerce     Capital                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Prescription  Drug  Monitoring  - This  capital  project                                                                   
     grant request is for the  initial planning grant awarded                                                                   
     by  the  U.S.  Department  of  Justice  related  to  the                                                                   
     Prescription   Drug  Monitoring  Program.   Prescription                                                                   
     monitoring   programs  help   prevent  and  detect   the                                                                   
     diversion   and  abuse   of  pharmaceutical   controlled                                                                   
     substances,  particularly at the  retail level  where no                                                                   
     other automated information collection system exists.                                                                      
                                                        $49.4                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas turned to additional  funding for the prescription                                                                   
drug  monitoring program.   The  request is  for the  initial                                                                   
planning grant.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Sections 10-12     Commerce     Capital                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Organizational  Grant.  The  Division of Elections  will                                                                   
     be conducting  an incorporation election in  Wrangell in                                                                   
     early May.   If voters  approve, city will  be dissolved                                                                   
     and a borough  will be formed.  The department  only has                                                                   
     30 days after  the election is certified  to provide the                                                                   
     first year  organization grant. This request  is for the                                                                   
     first year  grant for Wrangell, the FY09  Capital Budget                                                                   
     requests the second year grant.                   $300.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas explained  a request related to  an organizational                                                                   
grant.   The  Division  of Elections  will  be conducting  an                                                                   
incorporation election in Wrangell  in May and will require a                                                                   
grant to be funded.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Sections 10-12     Commerce     Capital                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Climate  Change  Impact   Mitigation  Program  -  Grants                                                                   
     ($150.0  max) to imminently  threatened communities  for                                                                   
     planning   for   addressing   threats   and   mitigation                                                                   
     measures;  mini grants ($50.0  max) to identify  climate                                                                   
     change  related  impacts   that  are  threatening  life,                                                                   
     property  or economics; support  for local  coordinators                                                                   
     in  communities  demonstrating   imminent  threats;  and                                                                   
     funding for oversight of  programs and grants.  $1,100.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas  related that  the request  is for climate  change                                                                   
impact mitigation  program grants.  These grants  can be used                                                                   
by imminently threatened communities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:32:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 20(a)     Commerce     Capital                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Correct sec 42(c),  SB53, SLA 2007, pg 164,  line 19, by                                                                   
     deleting the  reference to  "for the fiscal  year ending                                                                   
     June 30, 2008."                                     $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thomas   spoke  about  the   request  for   a  technical                                                                   
correction in SB  53.  The reference to "for  the fiscal year                                                                   
ending June 30, 2008" would be deleted.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section 20(b)     Commerce     Capital                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Restore  $34,334 revenue  sharing for  the community  of                                                                   
     Whitestone  - sec. 55(c),  ch. 30,  SLA 2007,  page 184,                                                                   
     line 3.                                            $34.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas addressed  an item which restores  revenue sharing                                                                   
for the community  of Whitestone, which was removed  due to a                                                                   
misunderstanding.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section 20(c)     Commerce    AK Energy Authority                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Rename  the Alaska  Energy  Authority  - ALCAN  Intertie                                                                   
     project (sec.  4, ch. 82, SLA 2006, page  117, lines 21-                                                                   
     22 -  $3,200,000) to  Alaska Energy  Authority -  Kake -                                                                   
     Petersburg  Intertie  and   Alaska  -  British  Columbia                                                                   
     Intertie.                                           $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thomas explained  the request  would  rename the  Alaska                                                                   
Energy Authority - ALCAN Intertie  to Alaska Energy Authority                                                                   
- Kate  - Petersburg Intertie  and Alaska - British  Columbia                                                                   
Intertie.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 20 (d)     Commerce      Quality Trade Assoc Contract                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Reduce  the   FY08  operating  appropriation   for  this                                                                   
     component by  $800.0 from $5,005.1 to $4,205.1  to "free                                                                   
     up" funds that are then used  in the FY09 capital budget                                                                   
     named recipient grant to  ATIA.                 ($800.0)                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thomas  discussed  the  request  to  reduce  the  FY  08                                                                   
operating appropriation for the  Quality Trade Association in                                                                   
order to  free up funds for  the ATIA grant recipient  in the                                                                   
FY 09 budget.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:38:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 20(e)     Commerce     Capital                                                                                          
     Scope change: Community Development  Assistance [GRANTS]                                                                   
     capital  project  to expand  scope  to allow  department                                                                   
     spending  to provide  community  assistance.   Currently                                                                   
     scope   is  too   narrow,   only   allowing  grants   to                                                                   
     communities.  (Sec. 4, ch. 30, SLA 2007, page 84, line                                                                     
     26)  The estimated unobligated balance is $11,089,500.                                                                     
                                                         $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas addressed the request  that would change the scope                                                                   
of the  Community Development  Assistance capital  project to                                                                   
allow department spending to provide community assistance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section 27   Debt: Fund Capitalization    PCE Fund                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Increase   PCE  Fund  capitalization   by  $700.0   from                                                                   
     $12,999.4   GF  to  $13,699.4   GF  (total   funds  from                                                                   
     $25,273.0  to $25,973.0)  in order  to provide  more PCE                                                                   
     funding needed due to increased  fuel costs.      $700.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thomas explained  that the  request  would increase  PCE                                                                   
Fund capitalization in order to  provide more PCE funding due                                                                   
to increased fuel costs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:40:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton requested  more  information about  the FY  08                                                                   
$800,000 deduction  to be  used in FY  09 for the  ATIA grant                                                                   
recipient.  He  wanted to know what the match  would be after                                                                   
the  transfer of  the  $800,000.   He  also  wondered if  the                                                                   
vehicle rental tax was anticipated for ATIA's mission.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman    echoed   concerns   about    the   same                                                                   
appropriation  because it  would remove  the requirement  for                                                                   
the  match and  may  discourage future  match  contributions.                                                                   
Mr. Thomas agreed to provide more information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested more  information about  PCE fund                                                                   
changes, in  particular, the cash  flow changes.   He assumed                                                                   
there would not  be a need for as much fuel  to heat homes in                                                                   
June, compared to February and March.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  summarized that more information  is needed                                                                   
in both areas.  He requested the information in writing.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:43:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman inquired if Section  20(c) was a renaming of                                                                   
a project or  a reappropriation to a different  project.  Mr.                                                                   
Thomas  replied  that  it is  a  reappropriation.    Co-Chair                                                                   
Stedman asked  why the  item is  in the supplemental  budget.                                                                   
Co-Chair Hoffman  agreed that it might be better  included in                                                                   
another vehicle.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   requested  more  information   about  the                                                                   
Bradfield corridor and the Kake-Petersburg corridor.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:45:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Corrections     Correctional Academy                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Training  Academy   -  Recruitment  efforts   have  been                                                                   
     successful;  however, this has  created a very  critical                                                                   
     backlog in  getting new hires their  mandatory training.                                                                   
     This  is   a  serious  safety  and  security   issue.  A                                                                   
     supplemental  request  will  meet the  current  training                                                                   
     needs  of the recruits  as well  address the  curriculum                                                                   
     needs of the academy.                             $145.4                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SHARLEEN  GRIFFIN,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF  CORRECTIONS,  explained  that  the                                                                   
request  is for  a  Correctional  Academy.   The  recruitment                                                                   
campaign has been very successful  and now there are a number                                                                   
of  Correctional  Officer  I's  that require  training  in  a                                                                   
timely manner.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9   Corrections      Institution Director's Office                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     This   request   covers  the   Correctional   Facilities                                                                   
     shortfall   of  personal   services,  contractual,   and                                                                   
     commodities.  This includes  costs such as  correctional                                                                   
     officer  overtime,  fuel   surcharges,  electricity  and                                                                   
     other utility  and heating costs, increased  commodities                                                                   
     costs for  food and  other operational commodities.  The                                                                   
     prisons  are 24-hour facilities  that must remain  open.                                                                   
     Every effort  is made to control costs;  however, actual                                                                   
     costs are exceeding the FY2008  budget.         $1,852.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Griffin  spoke  of  the   request  for  coverage  for  a                                                                   
shortfall of personal services,  contractual, and commodities                                                                   
for all correctional facilities  statewide.  A portion of the                                                                   
request  is  due   to  Leap  Year  and  having   to  run  the                                                                   
institutions for an  extra 24 hours.  Another  portion is for                                                                   
utility allocations.   There is also a need  to fund overtime                                                                   
at 24-hour correctional facilities, and supplies.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Corrections     Inmate Health Care                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The   department  is  requesting   a  supplemental   for                                                                   
     increased inmate  health care costs and  to meet medical                                                                   
     staff overtime costs. The  funding is needed to meet the                                                                   
     department's  mandated obligations  of medical  care for                                                                   
     the aging and increased population  of offenders and for                                                                   
     the  sharp  increase in  the  number  and the  cost  for                                                                   
     inmates  needing  dialysis,  cancer  treatment  and  the                                                                   
     growing number  of life-threatening cases.  Funding will                                                                   
     also  assist in  meeting the  personal service  overtime                                                                   
     costs  associated with  providing  the required  nursing                                                                   
     oversight.                                      $2,427.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Griffin  said that  the  request  for funds  for  inmate                                                                   
health  care  costs  are  due  to  an  increased  population,                                                                   
catastrophic  cases,  overtime  in  24-hour  facilities,  and                                                                   
increased costs for vendor services.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Section 21(a)     Corrections      Community Jails                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The Division  of Legislative  Audit recommends  that the                                                                   
     Department  of  Corrections  restructure  the  community                                                                   
     jails  program to  promote  equity between  communities.                                                                   
     This   involves  identifying   the   various  types   of                                                                   
     activities  and costs  associated  with operating  local                                                                   
     jails  while being  consistent  with security  standards                                                                   
     and staffing  requirements. This is even  more important                                                                   
     because  according to the  Department of  Administration                                                                   
     each  community  participating  in the  community  jails                                                                   
     program  is  already required  to  have  a State  single                                                                   
     audit.  Establishing a  professional services  agreement                                                                   
     with   an  independent   contractor   will  assist   the                                                                   
     department  in its  endeavor to  ensure that a  balanced                                                                   
     distribution  of funding  is allocated  on an  equitable                                                                   
     basis within  the community  jails program.  An extended                                                                   
     termination  date is required  to allow sufficient  time                                                                   
     to  procure  a  contract   and  assure  the  vendor  has                                                                   
     adequate time to complete  this analysis.          $45.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:48:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Griffin turned  to  the  request for  restructuring  the                                                                   
community jails program  and for a term date  extension until                                                                   
June 30  of FY 09.   Legislative Audit audited  the community                                                                   
jails program  and recommended  that the  department  come up                                                                   
with  a new  allocation plan  that jail-related  expenditures                                                                   
for each  community are reviewed  and standardized  costs are                                                                   
developed.  The funding is for  a contractor to review all of                                                                   
the  community  jails  and  come  up  with  a  standard  cost                                                                   
allocation plan.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Section 21(b)     Corrections     Out-of-State Contractual                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This  amount  pays  for  an  FY2006  unpaid  outstanding                                                                   
     contractual  invoice for  $50,000 from the  Correctional                                                                   
     Corporation of America.                            $50.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Griffin  described the  need to  fund a  bill from  FY 06                                                                   
from  the  Correctional  Corporation   of  America  that  the                                                                   
department did not know was outstanding.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 21(c)     Corrections     Parole Board                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 This request is to pay an FY2005 unpaid outstanding invoice                                                                    
 for $399.09 from the Voyager Hotel.                    $0.4                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Griffin  explained  that   the  request  is  to  pay  an                                                                   
outstanding FY 05 invoice from the Voyager Hotel.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section  21(d)       Corrections     Population   Management,                                                                   
Anchorage Correctional Complex                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     There  have  been  lower   than  anticipated  costs  and                                                                   
     therefore federal receipts,  for housing federal inmates                                                                   
     (man-day  federal shortfall).  Beds are  used for  state                                                                   
     and  local  inmates  so general  fund  authorization  is                                                                   
     necessary.                                          $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Griffin related  that the  funds are  needed to  replace                                                                   
empty federal  authorization with  general funds.   There has                                                                   
been  a reduction  in  the number  of  federal offenders  the                                                                   
department  is housing,  but the  cost of  the facilities  is                                                                   
fairly static.  She noted a shortfall last year.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:50:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton asked  whether  the correctional  academy  has                                                                   
been moved.  Ms. Griffin responded  that it had moved; it was                                                                   
previously housed  with the  Anchorage Police Department  and                                                                   
now  it is  in the  Palmer State  Office  Building.   Senator                                                                   
Elton asked  if moving costs  were reflected in  the request.                                                                   
Ms. Griffin said they were not.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if the  costs for  the academy  were                                                                   
waiting for legislative  approval.  Ms. Griffin  replied that                                                                   
the  department  is waiting  for  approval, however,  if  the                                                                   
funds are  not approved, several  officers will not  meet the                                                                   
APSC requirements within the specified timeframe.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Elton  asked   how   much  of   the  $1.8   million                                                                   
Correctional  Facilities  shortfall   is  commodities.    Ms.                                                                   
Griffin replied  $406,100 and  an additional $30,000  related                                                                   
to Leap Day.   Senator Elton asked if there  was $900,000 for                                                                   
commodities  last  year,  plus   an  additional  request  for                                                                   
$250,000 that was  also exceeded.  Ms. Griffin  said that was                                                                   
correct.  She  pointed out that the population  has increased                                                                   
beyond  what  was  anticipated   -  by  over  300  offenders.                                                                   
Senator  Elton  thought  that  components 20  (b-d)  did  not                                                                   
appear  to be  capital  expenditures.   He  questioned  their                                                                   
inclusion in the capital budget.  Ms. Griffin was not sure.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  pointed  out  that they  were  in  the  regular                                                                   
operating section.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:54:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  about  21(d) and  why  the  federal                                                                   
appropriation was  not received for housing  federal inmates.                                                                   
Ms.  Griffin  replied  that  the  federal  authorization  was                                                                   
overstated.  Additionally, there  has been a reduction in the                                                                   
number  of  federal offenders  the  state  is housing.    She                                                                   
explained that  the federal  government has procured  several                                                                   
private industry beds out of state.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if  the request  for  funds for  the                                                                   
correctional academy had already  been incurred.  Ms. Griffin                                                                   
responded  that   the  department  is  hoping   to  hold  the                                                                   
academies this fiscal  year.  If they are not  held, the time                                                                   
requirement for  certification will lapse.   Co-Chair Stedman                                                                   
concluded that they had not been  dispensed yet, but would be                                                                   
dispensed by June 30.  Ms. Griffin agreed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:56:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins asked  about  the Parole  Board  outstanding                                                                   
invoice.    He wondered  how  the  money would  be  allocated                                                                   
otherwise.   Ms. Griffin responded  that if the money  is not                                                                   
allocated, the department  cannot pay the vendor.   In FY 05,                                                                   
the Parole Board  was its own single component  RDU and there                                                                   
are no funds left.    Senator Huggins concluded  that it is a                                                                   
one-time assistance.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins spoke  of a concern  about the  Correctional                                                                   
Academy.    He  requested  to  know  more  information  about                                                                   
curriculum  needs.    Ms.  Griffin   explained  that  it  was                                                                   
materials, as well as ammunition.   Senator Huggins requested                                                                   
a  breakdown   of  those  expenses,   as  well  as   for  the                                                                   
Correctional Facilities shortfall request.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:58:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Environmental  Conservation    Office of the                                                                   
Commissioner                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Support for the Climate Change  work group process, with                                                                   
     an extended lapse date through  June 30, 2009.    $230.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MIKE MAHER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  REVENUE, addressed  funding for support  costs                                                                   
for climate change work groups.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 13(a)  Environmental Conservation   Water Quality                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Implementation  of  the   Ocean  Ranger  program.    The                                                                   
     contract needs  to be established early  enough to allow                                                                   
     the contractor to hire and  train Ocean Rangers prior to                                                                   
     the season  beginning in May 2008.  The  contractor will                                                                   
     incur  substantial  expenditures for  hiring,  training,                                                                   
     and   purchasing  equipment   in  preparation   for  the                                                                   
     upcoming  season.    In  addition  to  the  contractor's                                                                   
     costs,  the  department is  incurring  expenditures  for                                                                   
     paying staff  and other expenditures  for implementation                                                                   
     of the program.                                $2,800.0                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Maher spoke of a request for  implementation of the Ocean                                                                   
Ranger  program.   The  funding  source  is from  the  Cruise                                                                   
Vessel Fund.  The request is for projected revenues for the                                                                     
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Sections 13(a)-13(nn)  Environmental Conservation    Capital                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance ($120,671  GF) from  Stebbins -                                                                   
     Water and  Sewer Improvements  (38) (Sec. 135,  Ch. 103,                                                                   
     SLA  1995, Pg 58,  Ln 11)  to a  new Village Safe  Water                                                                   
    Study, Design and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer   unused   balance    ($1,945,738   Fed)   from                                                                   
     Environmental Protection  Agency Indian Set Aside Grants                                                                   
     (ED 99) (Sec.  135, Ch. 103, SLA 1995, Pg  58, Ln 35) to                                                                   
     a new Village Safe Water  Study, Design and Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects $2,066,409 -  Sec. 135,  Ch. 103,                                                                   
     SLA 1995.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer    unused    balance    ($55,000    GF)    from                                                                   
     Engineering/Feasibility  Studies (ED 99) (Sec.  100, Ch.                                                                   
     123,  SLA 1996,  Pg 47,  Ln 25)  to a  new Village  Safe                                                                   
     Water   Study,   Design    and   Construction   Projects                                                                   
     allocation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction Projects - Sec. 100, Ch. 123, SLA 1996.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer   unused  balance   ($49,503.69   GF  Match   +                                                                   
     $49,503.70 Fed)  from Lower Kuskokwim School  District -                                                                   
     Tuntutuliak    School   Sewage   Disposal    Feasibility                                                                   
     Study/Design  (ED 39) (Sec.  82, Ch.  100, SLA  1997, Pg                                                                   
     46, Ln  14) to  a new Village  Safe Water Study,  Design                                                                   
     and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer   unused  balance   ($59,662.26   GF  Match   +                                                                   
     $59,662.25  Fed)  from  Village   Of  Kipnuk  -  Aquifer                                                                   
     Storage and  Recovery Demonstration Study  (ED 39) (Sec.                                                                   
     82, Ch.  100, SLA 1997, Pg  46, Ln 32) to a  new Village                                                                   
     Safe  Water  Study,  Design  and  Construction  Projects                                                                   
     allocation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects -  Sec.  82, Ch.  100, SLA  1997.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Design and Construction Projects.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects -  Sec. 131,  Ch. 139,  SLA 1998.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Design and Construction Projects.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance ($21,000  Fed  + $21,000  AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts) from  Kwethluk Housing Water  Systems Improvement                                                                   
     Study (ED  39) (Sec. 131, Ch.  139, SLA 1998, Pg  43, Ln                                                                   
     3)  to  a  new Village  Safe  Water  Study,  Design  and                                                                   
     Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance  ($68,140.59  Fed +  $68,140.58                                                                   
     AHFC  Rcpts) from  Gulkana  Water Modernization  Project                                                                   
     (ED 36) Sec. 131, Ch. 139,  SLA 1998, Pg 44, Ln 17) to a                                                                   
     new Village  Safe Water  Study, Design and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance ($379,101.15  Fed +  $6.07 AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts) from  Badger Richardson  Water Supply  Design (ED                                                                   
     29-34) (Sec. 131, Ch. 139,  SLA 1998, Pg 45, Ln 10) to a                                                                   
     new Village  Safe Water  Study, Design and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction Projects  $515,382  Sec. 131,  Ch. 139, SLA                                                                   
     1998.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Scope change  needed to allow  for match by  any federal                                                                   
     agency, not just RDA.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance  ($11,837.60 Fed  +  $5,915.42                                                                   
     AHFC Rcpts)  from Crooked  Creek Johnny John  Sr. School                                                                   
     Sewer System  Feasibility Study  (ED 36) (Sec.  100, Ch.                                                                   
     2, FSSLA 1999, Pg 41, Ln  7) to a new Village Safe Water                                                                   
    Study, Design and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer unused balance ($9,299.99  Fed + $4,639.98 AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts)  from Crooked  Creek  Master Plan  (ED 36)  (Sec.                                                                   
     100, Ch. 2,  FSSLA 1999, Pg 41, Ln 10) to  a new Village                                                                   
     Safe  Water  Study,  Design  and  Construction  Projects                                                                   
     allocation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance  ($11,966.07 Fed  +  $5,982.95                                                                   
     AHFC  Rcpts)  from Old  Harbor  Sanitation  Improvements                                                                   
     Feasibility Study  (ED 6) (Sec. 100, Ch.  2, FSSLA 1999,                                                                   
     Pg 42, Ln 15) to a new Village  Safe Water Study, Design                                                                   
     and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects -  Sec. 100,  Ch. 2, FSSLA  1999.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Design and Construction Projects.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Scope change  needed to allow  for match by  any federal                                                                   
     agency, not just EPA.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer unused  balance ($526,635.57 Fed  + $263,364.43                                                                   
     AHFC  Rcpts) from Tununak  Flush Tank  and Haul  (ED 38)                                                                   
     (Sec. 100,  Ch. 2, FSSLA  1999, Pg 44,  Ln 10) to  a new                                                                   
     Village  Safe  Water  Study,   Design  and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects -  Sec. 100,  Ch. 2, FSSLA  1999.                                                                   
     Scope change needed to allow  for any federal agency and                                                                   
     to allow Village Safe Water Study Projects.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Scope change  needed to allow  for match by  any federal                                                                   
     agency, not just RDA.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance  ($58,378.07  GF) from  Rampart                                                                   
     Water and  Sewer (ED 36)  (Sec. 100, Ch. 2,  FSSLA 1999,                                                                   
     Pg 45, Ln 21) to a new Village  Safe Water Study, Design                                                                   
     and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction Projects - Sec. 100, Ch. 2, FSSLA 1999.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1,  Ch.  135, SLA  2000.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Design and Construction Projects.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance  ($28,614.57 Fed  +  $9,538.19                                                                   
     AHFC  Rcpts) from  Akhiok Water  and Sewer  Improvements                                                                   
     Feasibility Study (ED 6)  (Sec. 1, Ch. 135, SLA 2000, Pg                                                                   
     6, Ln 12) to a new Village  Safe Water Study, Design and                                                                   
     Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance  ($25,179.02 Fed  +  $8,393.01                                                                   
     AHFC  Rcpts)  from  Ivanof Bay  Landfill  Water  Quality                                                                   
     Protection  Study and Preliminary  Design (ED  40) (Sec.                                                                   
     1, Ch.  135, SLA  2000, Pg  7, Ln 10)  to a new  Village                                                                   
     Safe  Water  Study,  Design  and  Construction  Projects                                                                   
     allocation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance  ($43,895.02  Fed +  $14,631.68                                                                   
     AHFC  Rcpts) from Kaltag  Master Plan  (ED 36)  (Sec. 1,                                                                   
     Ch. 135,  SLA 2000, Pg 7,  Ln 13) to a new  Village Safe                                                                   
     Water   Study,   Design    and   Construction   Projects                                                                   
     allocation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance ($63,717  Fed  + $21,239  AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts)  from Nuiqsut Sewage  Lagoon Closure  Feasibility                                                                   
     Study (ED 37)(Sec. 1, Ch.  135, SLA 2000, Pg 8, Ln 3) to                                                                   
     a new Village Safe Water  Study, Design and Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance ($73,500  Fed  + $24,500  AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts)  from   Saint  George  Water  and   Sewer  System                                                                   
     Planning Study  (ED 40) (Sec.  1, Ch. 135, SLA  2000, Pg                                                                   
     8, Ln 11) to a new Village  Safe Water Study, Design and                                                                   
     Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                          
     Transfer  unused  balance  ($20,684.79 Fed  +  $6,894.93                                                                   
     AHFC Rcpts)  from Saxman Water Storage Design  Study (ED                                                                   
     1) (Sec.  1, Ch. 135,  SLA 2000, Pg  8, Ln 16) to  a new                                                                   
     Village  Safe  Water  Study,   Design  and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Scope change  needed to allow  for match by  any federal                                                                   
     agency, not just EPA.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance  ($225,000 Fed  + $75,000  AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts) from  Savoonga Water  and Sewer Project  (Sec. 1,                                                                   
     Ch. 135,  SLA 2000, Pg 9,  Ln 13) to a new  Village Safe                                                                   
     Water   Study,   Design    and   Construction   Projects                                                                   
     allocation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1,  Ch.  135, SLA  2000.                                                                   
     Scope change needed to allow  for any federal agency and                                                                   
     to allow Village Safe Water Study Projects.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance  ($94,393.63  Fed +  $31,464.54                                                                   
     AHFC   Rcpts)  from   Allakaket  Sanitation   Facilities                                                                   
     Improvement Plan  (Sec. 1, Ch.  61, SLA 2001, Pg  11, Ln                                                                   
     29)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water Study,  Design  and                                                                   
     Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects  -  Sec.  1, Ch.  61,  SLA  2001.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Design and Construction Projects.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance ($56,200  Fed  + $18,800  AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts)  from  Rampart  Solid  Waste  and  Water  Quality                                                                   
     Protection  Plan (Sec. 1,  Ch. 61, SLA  2001, Pg  13, Ln                                                                   
     18)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water Study,  Design  and                                                                   
     Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance  ($10,682.06 Fed  +  $3,560.69                                                                   
     AHFC Rcpts) from Chistochina  Facility Plan (Sec. 1, Ch.                                                                   
     1, SSSLA 2002, CH 1, Page  29, Line 28) to a new Village                                                                   
     Safe  Water  Study,  Design  and  Construction  Projects                                                                   
     allocation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance  ($17,160.79 Fed  +  $5,720.26                                                                   
     AHFC  Rcpts) from  False Pass  Wastewater Treatment  and                                                                   
     Disposal Feasibility  Study (Sec. 1, Ch.  1, SSSLA 2002,                                                                   
     Pg 29, Ln 28) to a new Village  Safe Water Study, Design                                                                   
     and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1,  Ch.  1, SSSLA  2002.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Design and Construction Projects.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer unused balance ($182,000  GF + $1,200,000 Fed +                                                                   
     $218,000  AHFC  Rcpts)  from Tuluksak  Water  and  Sewer                                                                   
     Project -  Phase I (Sec. 1,  Ch. 1, SSSLA 2002,   Pg 31,                                                                   
     Ln  9) to a  new Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1,  Ch.  1, SSSLA  2002.                                                                   
     Scope change  needed to allow  Village Safe  Water Study                                                                   
     Projects.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer unused balance ($1,042,500  Fed + $347,500 AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts) from  Tuntutuliak Water  and Sewer Project  (Sec.                                                                   
     1, Ch.  1, SSSLA 2002,  Pg  35, Ln 11) to a  new Village                                                                   
     Safe  Water  Study,  Design  and  Construction  Projects                                                                   
     allocation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance ($525,000  Fed + $175,000  AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts) from  Alatna Water  Supply and Sewage  Collection                                                                   
     and  Treatment Project  Phase  4 (Sec.  1,  Ch. 82,  SLA                                                                   
     2003, Pg 20,  Ln 23) to a new Village  Safe Water Study,                                                                   
     Design and Construction Projects allocation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance ($66,000  Fed  + $22,000  AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts) from  Egegik Water and Sewer  Improvement Project                                                                   
     Phase 4  (Sec. 1, Ch. 82, SLA  2003, Pg 21, Ln  22) to a                                                                   
     new Village  Safe Water  Study, Design and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer unused balance ($1,473,750  Fed + $491,250 AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts) from Tuluksak Sanitation  Facilities Construction                                                                   
     Phase 2  (Sec. 1, Ch. 82, SLA  2003, Pg 23, Ln  28) to a                                                                   
     new Village  Safe Water  Study, Design and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects  -  Sec.  1, Ch.  82,  SLA  2003.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Study Projects.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance  ($16,500  Fed +  $5,500  AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts)  from Delta  Junction  Downtown  Water and  Sewer                                                                   
     Master Plan (Sec. 1, Ch.  82, SLA 2003, Pg 24, Ln 26) to                                                                   
     a new Village Safe Water  Study, Design and Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer unused balance ($9,025.56  Fed + $3,008.52 AHFC                                                                   
     Rcpts)  from  Port  Protection   Wastewater  Engineering                                                                   
     Study (Sec. 1, Ch. 82, SLA  2003, Pg 25, Ln 21) to a new                                                                   
     Village  Safe  Water  Study,   Design  and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects $34,034  -  Sec. 1,  Ch. 82,  SLA                                                                   
     2003.   Scope change  needed to  allow for Village  Safe                                                                   
     Water Study Projects.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance ($847,500  Fed + $282,500  AHFC                                                                   
     Bond  Proceeds)  from  Hyder  Sewer  System  Development                                                                   
     Phase 1 (Sec.  1, Ch. 159, SLA 2004, Pg 22,  Ln 27) to a                                                                   
     new Village  Safe Water  Study, Design and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance ($531,000  Fed + $177,000  AHFC                                                                   
     Bond  Proceeds)  from  Kivalina  Sewer  and  Water  Haul                                                                   
     System (Sec.  1, Ch. 159,  SLA 2004, Pg  23, Ln 5)  to a                                                                   
     new Village  Safe Water  Study, Design and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused balance ($687,000  Fed + $229,000  AHFC                                                                   
     Bond  Proceeds)  from  Koyukuk   Sanitation  Improvement                                                                   
     Project Phase  2 (Sec. 1, Ch.  159, SLA 2004, Pg  23, Ln                                                                   
     11)  to  a new  Village  Safe  Water Study,  Design  and                                                                   
     Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer unused balance ($2,190,000  Fed + $730,000 AHFC                                                                   
     Bond  Proceeds)  from  Tuluksak   Sanitation  Facilities                                                                   
     Construction Phase 3 (Sec.  1, Ch. 159, SLA 2004, Pg 24,                                                                   
     Ln 18)  to a  new Village Safe  Water Study,  Design and                                                                   
     Construction Projects allocation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1,  Ch.  159, SLA  2004.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Study Projects.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer  unused  balance ($798,750  Fed  + $266,250  GF                                                                   
     Match) from  Brevig Mission Water and  Sewer Connections                                                                   
     (Sec.  1, Ch.  3, FSSLA  2005, Pg  48, Ln  20) to a  new                                                                   
     Village  Safe  Water  Study,   Design  and  Construction                                                                   
     Projects allocation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     New  allocation: Village  Safe Water  Study, Design  and                                                                   
     Construction  Projects  - Sec.  1,  Ch.  3, FSSLA  2005.                                                                   
     Scope  change needed  to  allow for  Village Safe  Water                                                                   
     Study Projects.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Maher referred  to  Sections 13(a)-(nn)  as  a net  zero                                                                   
supplemental.   They reallocate funding for  various projects                                                                   
in  the  Village   Safe  Water  Program.     They  allow  the                                                                   
department to  close out a number  of old projects and  to go                                                                   
further  down   the  prioritization  list  and   finish  some                                                                   
projects that will need additional funding.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  about  the request  for the  Climate                                                                   
Change work group  process.  He wanted information  about the                                                                   
timing of  the request.  Mr.  Maher said the request  was for                                                                   
an  extended lapse  date  for a  two-year  period.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Stedman  asked  why  it  is  not   included  in  the  regular                                                                   
operation budget.   Mr. Maher  said it was because  operating                                                                   
funds were  already being  spent on  this project.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Stedman  wondered  if there  was  a hardship  to  not run  it                                                                   
through the regular budget.  Mr.  Maher thought there may not                                                                   
be a hardship.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Elton  pointed   out  that   the  work  group   was                                                                   
established by  the Governor and includes  other departments.                                                                   
He wondered  if other  departments were  contributing  to the                                                                   
cost.  Mr. Maher deferred to Mr. Chappell.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:03:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TOM CHAPPLE,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF AIR  AND WATER  QUALITY,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION,  replied that there                                                                   
were several  other agencies  involved  that were making  the                                                                   
same   "in   kind"   commitments   as   the   Department   of                                                                   
Environmental  Conservation  (DEC)  was.    The  supplemental                                                                   
request would  support contractual  work that would  help the                                                                   
work  group effort  go  forward.   The  general fund  request                                                                   
would leverage  other grant funds.   The total of  the effort                                                                   
would be  considerably more  than the  $230,000 by  using the                                                                   
grant funds.  The total consequence  of the work group effort                                                                   
would have  a more  significant impact on  DEC and  the other                                                                   
agencies  if it  was not  funded separately.   Senator  Elton                                                                   
asked  if the  working group  was ordered  by the  Governor's                                                                   
office.  Mr. Chapple replied that  was correct.  The Governor                                                                   
signed Administrative  Order 238 in September  2007, creating                                                                   
the  cabinet to  develop a  climate change  strategy for  the                                                                   
state.   Senator  Elton asked  if the  Governor realized  the                                                                   
fiscal  impact of  the working  group.   Mr. Chapple  replied                                                                   
that was not possible at the time.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  if  there  would  be  further  such                                                                   
requests  in  2010.   Mr.  Chapple  said this  request  would                                                                   
result in the project's completion.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:06:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested a letter from  the Administration                                                                   
notifying the legislature of the request.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton asked  about the request for $2.8  million from                                                                   
the Commercial Passenger  Vessel Fund.  He wondered  how much                                                                   
would go  to the contractor  and how  much would go  to staff                                                                   
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LYNN  KENT,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  WATER,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                   
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, responded  that of the budget for                                                                   
the  current   fiscal  year,  a  little  under   $400,000  is                                                                   
allocated for DEC staff.  The  bulk of it is intended for the                                                                   
Ocean Ranger contract.   Senator Elton asked  if the $400,000                                                                   
is  from  the  $4  million total,  if  the  $2.8  million  is                                                                   
approved, or if  the $400,000 comes out of  the $2.8 million.                                                                   
Ms. Kent replied that in the current  budget, $1.2 million is                                                                   
already  authorized;  combined   with  the  supplemental,  it                                                                   
equals  $4 million.   The  $400,000 is  a portion  of the  $4                                                                   
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  about  the  need  to  research  the                                                                   
constitutional obligations  of the Ocean Ranger  program.  He                                                                   
also cautioned  to keep an eye  on the appropriation  so that                                                                   
its intent is not breached.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:09:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9  Health & Soc Services     Foster Care Base Rate                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Increased costs in the amount  of $656.3 due to increase                                                                   
     in  Protective  Services  Reports received.    Increased                                                                   
     collections  of Supplemental  Security Income  (SSI) and                                                                   
     Child Support Services Division  (CSSD) receipts $800.0.                                                                   
     Collections  attached  to  IV-E  eligible  children  are                                                                   
     reimbursed  to the federal  government; other  funds are                                                                   
     built  into   the  Foster   Care  base  Rate   payments.                                                                   
     Approximate  2,000 children  are in  foster care  at any                                                                   
     given time.   The  Foster Care Base  Rate is  $24.13 per                                                                   
     day or $724 per month.                          $1,456.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  BAKER,   BUDGET  CHIEF,  DIVISION   OF  ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,   DEPARTMENT  OF   HEALTH   AND  SOCIAL   SERVICES,                                                                   
explained that the request is  to fund additional "bed days",                                                                   
or  days of  service  for foster  care  homes.   The  receipt                                                                   
supported  services are funds  that are  coming back  in from                                                                   
Child  Support  Enforcement  Division   as  part  of  federal                                                                   
guidelines.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9 Health & Soc Services  Foster Care Special Needs                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  costs.  An estimated  240 more  children will                                                                   
     require special  needs funding support for  their foster                                                                   
     care  this  year.    Approximately  1,800  children  are                                                                   
     eligible to  receive special  needs funds at  an average                                                                   
     cost of $240.00 per month.                        $699.8                                                                   
Ms.  Baker  addressed  increased   costs  for  special  needs                                                                   
children in foster care due to a higher case load.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9    Health & Soc Services   Medicaid Services                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ProShare Disallowance.   ProShare was disallowed  by the                                                                   
     U.S.   Department   of   Health   and   Human   Services                                                                   
     Departmental  Appeals  Board   in  July  2007.    Before                                                                   
     ProShare was  begun, the department funded  these grants                                                                   
     with general  funds.  Supplemental funding  is needed to                                                                   
    continue the grants to community service providers.                                                                         
                                                    $17,062.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker  talked  about the  replacement  of  lost  federal                                                                   
funds.  The  request is for the Medicaid  refinancing program                                                                   
called ProShare.   The state started  this process in  FY 04.                                                                   
Over a  2-year period $4 million  was saved, but  the federal                                                                   
government disagreed with the  procedure that was used.  This                                                                   
request would replace the lost  funds related to FY 08, and a                                                                   
smaller adjustment for FY 07.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9    Health & Soc Services    Nome Your Facility                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  operating  costs.    The  facility  is  fully                                                                   
     staffed and cannot cover  the budgeted 4% vacancy factor                                                                   
     or other  costs related  to the  larger facility.   This                                                                   
     request  provides  $70.0  personal  services  and  $80.0                                                                   
     contractual services costs.                       $150.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker spoke  about funding for increased  operating costs                                                                   
for  the Nome  Youth Facility  for  personal and  contractual                                                                   
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:12:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9   Health & Soc Services     Johnson Youth Center                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  medical   costs  for  services   provided  to                                                                   
     juveniles at the facility.   In the past two years these                                                                   
     costs were  covered with ProShare funds, but  that is no                                                                   
     longer an option.                                 $250.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker explained  the cost request related  to the Johnson                                                                   
Youth  Center.   The funding  is actually  spread among  five                                                                   
youth  centers:  McLaughlin,  Fairbanks,  Bethel,  Nome,  and                                                                   
Juneau.    The request  is  for  increased medical  cost  for                                                                   
juveniles in these  facilities, above and beyond  the regular                                                                   
operating costs for the division.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Health & Soc  Services    Probation Services                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Replace uncollectible federal  funding for Targeted Case                                                                   
     Management.                                         $0.0                                                                   
Ms. Baker related that the request  for probation services in                                                                   
the Juvenile  Justice Division is  a fund source change.   It                                                                   
will replace  lost federal receipts,  which the  division had                                                                   
hoped to use as part of the federal  targeted case management                                                                   
procedure.    The  federal  government's   Health  and  Human                                                                   
Services, Centers  for Medicare and Medicaid,  have ratcheted                                                                   
down the  cost that  states are  able to  claim under  target                                                                   
case management.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9    Health & Soc Services    Probation Services                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Court Ordered  costs.  Per legislative  direction, these                                                                   
     costs  are requested  through  supplementals instead  of                                                                   
     being incorporated into the  base budget.         $221.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker  turned  to  court  ordered  costs  for  probation                                                                   
services in juvenile justice.   The request is for costs that                                                                   
are outside  the normal  operating budget  for the  division.                                                                   
Several years  ago Senator Green suggested that  the division                                                                   
propose these  costs as supplemental requests  similar to the                                                                   
Department of  Law's judgments and  claims.  That  has worked                                                                   
out well  for both  the Administration  and the  legislature.                                                                   
The  estimated costs  are for  about $221,000  for the  year,                                                                   
similar to previous years' requests.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Sections  7-9  Health  & Soc  Services   Women, Infants,  and                                                                   
Children                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  SDPR   from  baby  formula  rebates.     This                                                                   
     corresponds to  the department's FY09  increment request                                                                   
     of $650.0.                                        $852.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker  explained  the  increased   Statutory  Designated                                                                   
Program Receipt  (SDPR) authority  for the Women  and Infants                                                                   
Program in Public  Assistance.  These are for  infant formula                                                                   
rebates.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:14:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections  7-9   Health  &  Soc  Services     Certification  &                                                                   
Licensing                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Increased   authority  to   receive   and  expend   fees                                                                   
     generated by background check  applications.  Originally                                                                   
     anticipated  16,000  to 18,000  applications;  projected                                                                   
     increase  is 12,000  applications from  Foster Care  and                                                                   
     Child Care employees.                             $945.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker spoke of projected increases  for receipt supported                                                                   
services  for the certification  and licensing  costs  in the                                                                   
background check  unit.  The background check  unit is seeing                                                                   
a higher  level of  requests than anticipated.   Most  of the                                                                   
receipts get signed  over to the Department  of Public Safety                                                                   
for the actual fingerprinting.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Sections  8-9  Health  & Soc  Services    Alaska  Psychiatric                                                                   
Institute                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  Third-Party  payment  receipts  enabling  the                                                                   
     department  to  save  some   general  funds.    This  is                                                                   
     reflected  in section  8, the  departmental fund  source                                                                   
     list.                                               $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 Ms. Baker turned to a "delete/add" supplemental request due                                                                    
 to increased third-party payment receipts for the Alaska                                                                       
 Psychiatric Institute (API).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 10-12     Health & Soc Services     Capital                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Psychiatric   Institute   Automation   -   Funding   for                                                                   
     electronic  records  system and  tele-behavioral  health                                                                   
     evaluation  and   treatment  system.     The  electronic                                                                   
     records  system  is partially  funded  with an  existing                                                                   
     capital  project  with  the remainder  coming  from  the                                                                   
     operating  budget.    This   system  is  used  to  track                                                                   
     important  patient  data   and  will  provide  API  with                                                                   
     reliable funding and census  information.  API is moving                                                                   
     towards  tele-behavioral  health  to  allow  psychiatric                                                                   
     evaluation  and   treatment  of  patients   from  remote                                                                   
     locations.                                      $1,200.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker explained the capital  request related to statutory                                                                   
designated  program receipts  for API.   The  funds would  be                                                                   
added to  the current  capital project  that was funding  the                                                                   
electronic  medical record  system in  order to add  enhanced                                                                   
modules for  tracking nursing overtime  to the system.   This                                                                   
could increase receipts and efficiencies at API.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:16:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 14   Health & Soc  Services  Senior  Benefits Payment                                                                   
Program                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Senior Benefits.   SB 4, that passed in  June 2007, does                                                                   
     not establish  a flat rate, but sets rates  from $100 to                                                                   
     $175  /month depending  on  household  income.   Maximum                                                                   
     income  eligibility  level is  150%  of federal  poverty                                                                   
     guidelines for Alaska.                         $18,492.1                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker explained  the  request  for the  Senior  Benefits                                                                   
Payment Program.  She thanked  the legislature for passing SB
4  during the  June  special session.    The Senior  Benefits                                                                   
Program  replaced  the  Senior   Care  Program.    The  funds                                                                   
requested reflect  the estimate  of the fiscal  note prepared                                                                   
during  the special  session.   The  projection  is still  on                                                                   
track.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Sections 29(b)(1-4)  Ratifications  Health & Soc Services                                                                       
     Team Nutrition - $8,210.00                                                                                                 
     EMS Data Collection System - $9,488.71                                                                                     
     Phase II EMS Data Collection - $5,533.25                                                                                   
     IPEMS CPS Coordinator - $6,980.98                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker clarified  that the requests are related  to a need                                                                   
for legislative  ratification  for funds  in the Division  of                                                                   
Public  Health   related  to   unbudgeted  RSA's.     In  the                                                                   
accounting  system,  the department  had  chosen  to have  an                                                                   
administratively  separate appropriation  structure than  the                                                                   
normal operating  for unbudgeted  RSAs.  During  the year-end                                                                   
closeout  and after,  there were  some miscommunications  and                                                                   
timing  issues  and  now  there is  a  need  for  legislative                                                                   
ratification.   The programs in  Public Health  actually have                                                                   
enough  general  funds  to  cover   them,  but  there  is  no                                                                   
administrative fix available without legislative approval.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section 29(b)(5) Ratification Health & Soc Services                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Medicaid Services - $25,141,116.00                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  reported on  the FY  06 ratification for  Medicaid                                                                   
Health Care Services.   It relates to the  federal government                                                                   
turning down  ProShare claims for  grant refinancing.   It is                                                                   
important to note that with the  ratification, the department                                                                   
is  carrying accounts  receivable  on the  accounting  system                                                                   
because it  was thought  that the  federal receipts  would be                                                                   
forthcoming.     The  payments   have  been  made   and  once                                                                   
ratification  is  approved,  the receivable  will  come  off.                                                                   
There   are  also   payments  for   Indian  Health   Services                                                                   
referrals,  which  the  federal government  denied,  and  now                                                                   
needs ratification.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 29(b)(6)  Ratification  Health & Soc Services                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Medicaid Services - $4,350,407.00                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker  addressed  the need  for  ratification  regarding                                                                   
Medicaid ProShare for  a smaller amount in FY 07.   Ms. Baker                                                                   
emphasized that  both the legislature and  the Administration                                                                   
were aware of the risk of ProShare refinancing.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 29(b)(7)  Ratification   Health & Soc Services                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Health Care Services - $231,500.00                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  explained the ratification  request for  the Women                                                                   
and  Adolescent  Services  component,  which  is  a  year-end                                                                   
closeout issue.  After the reappropriation  period closed the                                                                   
end  of  August,  with  federal  revenues  expected,  it  was                                                                   
discovered  that  the federal  receipts  were  over-collected                                                                   
leading to a shortfall.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  for   more  information  about  the                                                                   
"backfill" of the previous items.   Ms. Baker asked if he was                                                                   
requesting  information  for  all items.    Co-Chair  Stedman                                                                   
replied  yes.    Ms.  Baker  explained  that  the  Office  of                                                                   
Management and  Budget is  considering budget amendments  for                                                                   
FY 09 that will  bring the Foster Care base  rate and special                                                                   
needs proposal,  as well as  the target case  manage proposal                                                                   
for  Probation Services,  in line.   The  requests for  Youth                                                                   
Facilities are already included in the FY 09 budget.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:22:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   pointed  out  that  there   were  capital                                                                   
requests  in the supplemental  budget  which did not  belong,                                                                   
especially  in light  of the  shortened session.   Ms.  Baker                                                                   
noted that  these requests  would have  an impact on  current                                                                   
department  budget  and management  decisions.     Ms.  Baker                                                                   
stated that the  capital item for API is in  the supplemental                                                                   
because  they  have a  contract  to purchase  the  electronic                                                                   
medical records  and, without the additional  funding, cannot                                                                   
fully  implement  it.   Co-Chair  Stedman argued  for  having                                                                   
accurate capital and operating  budgets and a bare minimum in                                                                   
the supplemental.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:25:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  referred to the  Johnson Youth  Center request                                                                   
and asked why  the language did not reflect  that the funding                                                                   
goes  statewide to  several youth  facilities  in the  state.                                                                   
Ms. Baker  said that  information is  provided in the  backup                                                                   
material.   Senator Elton  thought it  was deceptive  because                                                                   
the money is not for Juneau, as it appears.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton asked a question  about Probation Services.  He                                                                   
wondered what  percentage of the budget the  $600,000 request                                                                   
for Targeted  Case Management  was.   Ms. Baker replied  that                                                                   
that amount was  expected in federal funds for  juveniles who                                                                   
were Medicaid eligible.   She could not provide  the specific                                                                   
number, but thought it was about  $1 million to $1.2 million.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked  about the foster care base  rate.  He                                                                   
wondered why  there was  a need for  general funds,  as well.                                                                   
Ms. Baker  responded  that it  is a combined  proposal.   The                                                                   
case  load  is  increasing,  plus there  is  an  increase  in                                                                   
receipts  that cover state  costs for  children with  parents                                                                   
who are paying child support.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:27:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked who the community  service providers were                                                                   
now that ProShare  was disallowed.  Ms. Baker  explained that                                                                   
in FY  04, general  funds were reduced  in grant  programs in                                                                   
Behavioral   Health,  Seniors   and  Services   Disabilities,                                                                   
Children's  Services,  and Public  Health.    She offered  to                                                                   
provide  a list of  grantees in  FY 08  that were covered  by                                                                   
ProShare funds.   The budget  reductions were taken  in grant                                                                   
programs, which sent the match  over to the Medicaid programs                                                                   
so that  the 100 percent  funding went  out.  Now  that there                                                                   
are  no federal  funds, those  grant programs  are no  longer                                                                   
fully funded  at the previous  service level.   Senator Olson                                                                   
asked if  community health centers  are included.   Ms. Baker                                                                   
said she would find out.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:29:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker emphasized  that  the Senior  Benefits  item is  a                                                                   
time-sensitive item.  Money has  been borrowed from the Adult                                                                   
Public Assistance  Program.   Without the supplemental,  both                                                                   
programs will run out of money  at the end of the month.  Co-                                                                   
Chair   Stedman  thought   that  the   legislature  and   the                                                                   
Administration worked together  during the special session to                                                                   
take care of that  issue, and it is reasonable  to expect the                                                                   
legislature  to fund  it.   Co-Chair  Hoffman explained  that                                                                   
there may be a cash flow problem.  Ms. Baker agreed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:30:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Law     Oil, Gas, and Mining                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     During FY2008 the Department  of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                   
     requested that Law allocate  $3.0 million of Law's $21.5                                                                   
     million Oil, Gas, and Mining  supplemental (Sec 1, Ch 6,                                                                   
     SLA07,  Pg 1,  Lns  4-6) to  pay a  contractor  to do  a                                                                   
     financial  analysis  of   the  TransCanada  proposal  to                                                                   
     evaluate that the state's  financial interests are being                                                                   
     met.   Law  has  entered  into a  Reimbursable  Services                                                                   
     Agreement  (RSA)  with  DNR  to  pay the  costs  of  the                                                                   
     valuation                                        expert.                                                                   
     The $3.0  million RSA'd to  DNR was not included  in the                                                                   
     costs Law anticipated  at the time of the  $21.5 million                                                                   
     request.  Law is requesting  that part of these funds be                                                                   
     replaced for their original  purpose.  Law is requesting                                                                   
     only $1,750,000  (and not  the full $3 million)  because                                                                   
     one   large  case   recently  settled   and  Law   spent                                                                   
     $1,250,000  less  than originally  anticipated  on  that                                                                   
     case.                                           $1,750.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG TILLERY,  DEPUTY ATTORNEY  GENERAL, DEPARTMENT  OF LAW,                                                                   
explained the request.  The Department  of Law (DOL) received                                                                   
a  combination  supplemental  for  FY  08  for  oil  and  gas                                                                   
projects including  the oil and  gas pipeline.   Recently, an                                                                   
unfunded need for  approximately $3 million in order  to do a                                                                   
financial  analysis   of  the  gas  pipeline   proposals  was                                                                   
discovered.  The DOL will enter  into a Reimbursable Services                                                                   
Agreement with  the Department of Natural Resources  in order                                                                   
to  facilitate  the  analysis.    That  leaves  DOL  with  an                                                                   
unfunded  liability amount  for  regular oil  and gas  cases.                                                                   
Since DOL is  $1.25 million under budget, the  request is for                                                                   
only $1.75 million.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(a)     Law    Deputy Attorney General's Office                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Judgments and  Settlements. Amount is $587,910.81  as of                                                                   
     January 28, 2008.                                 $588.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Tillery explained  that the request is for  judgments and                                                                   
settlements by  the Superior Court  or the Supreme  Court and                                                                   
all have been reduced from the original amount requested.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(b)     Law    Deputy Attorney General's Office                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The amount  necessary for  additional judgments  awarded                                                                   
     on or before June 30, 2008  is appropriated.        $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Tillery spoke about additional judgments awarded.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(e)     Law      Human  Services & Child Protection                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Native  Village  of Curyung  v.  State DHSS,  Office  of                                                                   
     Children                                        Services                                                                   
     This is a  complicated case involving four  tribes suing                                                                   
     the state  over alleged violations of various  state and                                                                   
     federal  laws.   the Department  of  Law estimates  that                                                                   
     there  are roughly  120 children  who are  part of  this                                                                   
     case.   It is anticipated  that litigation  and/or trial                                                                   
     costs are  expected to be  at least $200.0 in  FY08 with                                                                   
     another  $300.0 needed  in  FY09, so  an extended  lapse                                                                   
     date through June 30, 2009  is requested.         $500.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Tillery discussed  the  law  suit regarding  the  Native                                                                   
Village of Curyung  v. State Department of Health  and Social                                                                   
Services,  Office of  Children's  Services.   The tribes  are                                                                   
suing the state over alleged violations  of state and federal                                                                   
laws and  involving  about 20  children.  DOL  is asking  for                                                                   
$500,000  with  the  anticipation   that  $200,000  would  be                                                                   
expended in FY 08 and $300,000 in FY 09.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:34:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(c)     Law      Administrative Services                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Unpaid  FY06  bills.    Contractor   was  very  late  in                                                                   
     submitting final bills to  Law.  Bills were submitted in                                                                   
     May/June of 2007  so they were not included  in the FY06                                                                   
     supplemental for  Law.  The actual amount in  hand as of                                                                   
     January 28, 2008 is $3,109.36.                      $3.1                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD   SVOBODNY,   DEPUTY   ATTORNEY   GENERAL,   CRIMINAL                                                                   
DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT OF  LAW, addressed  the request  to pay                                                                   
bills received from FY 06 from a murder case.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 25(d)     Law     Criminal Division                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Additional federal authorization  is needed for the U.S.                                                                   
     Department of Justice, Office  of Violence Against Women                                                                   
     grant to  "Encourage Arrest Policies and  Enforcement of                                                                   
     Protection  Orders" for  $937,000,  as allocated  below.                                                                   
     The  grant term is  for 15  months, so  a lapse  date of                                                                   
     June 30,  2009 is requested. Second Judicial  District -                                                                   
     $127.8 Third  Judicial District: Anchorage  - $399.2 and                                                                   
     1 new PFT (Paralegal) Fourth  Judicial District - $410.0                                                                   
     and 2 new PFTs (Attorney  and Paralegal).         $937.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Svobodny  explained  the request  for  authorization  to                                                                   
spend $937,000  the state received  in a grant to  the Office                                                                   
of Violence Against Women to encourage  arrest and to enforce                                                                   
protective orders.  It funds positions  in the Second, Third,                                                                   
and  Fourth Judicial  Districts.   The primary  focus is  for                                                                   
funding a half-time  paralegal in Barrow, a  paralegal in the                                                                   
prosecution  unit, and a  position in  the Office of  Special                                                                   
Prosecution and Appeal.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:36:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  asked why the  First Judicial District  is not                                                                   
included in  the grant.   Mr.  Svobodny responded that  there                                                                   
was no  particular reason.   The  Rural Prosecution  Unit has                                                                   
spent a lot of  time in Southeast Alaska due  to three murder                                                                   
trials.   The money  comes to  the area,  but the people  are                                                                   
physically  located in  Anchorage.   Senator Elton  requested                                                                   
more  information about  why  the district  was  left out  of                                                                   
grant funding.  Mr. Svobodny agreed to do that.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  concurred that  it was  odd that  the First                                                                   
Judicial District was not included.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   asked   about   expectations   regarding                                                                   
judgments against the state.   Mr. Tillery replied that those                                                                   
appropriations   have  been   taken  care   of  through   the                                                                   
supplemental  budget.    He explained  the  process  and  the                                                                   
advantages of timely settlements.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:40:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked about DOL's  request for money to pay a                                                                   
contractor  to do  a financial  analysis  of the  TransCanada                                                                   
proposal to evaluate  if the state's financial  interests are                                                                   
being met.  He wondered if this  information was available to                                                                   
the legislature.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LETA  SIMONS,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  SUPPORT   SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  NATURAL RESOURCES,  explained where  the state                                                                   
is  at in  the AGIA  evaluation  process.   The  professional                                                                   
contractors are  being hired for risk analysis  and financial                                                                   
analysis.    She  related  that the  reports  would  be  made                                                                   
available.   Senator Huggins requested  that it be done  in a                                                                   
timely manner.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:41:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked if $21  million was appropriated  for                                                                   
that purpose.   Mr. Tillery  said that was correct;  however,                                                                   
this item was  not anticipated.  Other than  that, the budget                                                                   
is holding up well.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  DOL to  separate  gas line  endeavor                                                                   
expenses from taxes and royalty  collections in order to keep                                                                   
track of  expenditures directed  toward the  gas line  and of                                                                   
tax and royalty issues.  Mr. Tillery agreed.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   mentioned  a  letter  dated   February  6                                                                   
requesting that be done.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:44:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Natural Resources     Oil & Gas                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Cost to  implement ch.1,  SSSLA 2007 (HB  2001) Alaska's                                                                   
     Clear and  Equitable Share legislation.   Add two  Oil &                                                                   
     Gas Revenue  Audit Master exempt positions.   The amount                                                                   
     is reduced  from the original  fiscal note due  to later                                                                   
     than  anticipated hiring  of the positions.     The FY09                                                                   
     budget contains a related  increase of $303.5.    $110.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons continued  with an explanation of  the request for                                                                   
$110,000 to implement the ACES  fiscal note regarding two Oil                                                                   
and Gas  Revenue Audit Master  exempt positions.   The amount                                                                   
has  been   reduced  from   the  original   fiscal   note  in                                                                   
anticipation that  the positions won't be filled  until April                                                                   
1.  The FY  09 budget also contains the related  increase for                                                                   
the positions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9 Natural Resources  Fire Suppression Preparedness                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Letter  of Grievance Resolution  over Implementation  of                                                                   
     the  Forest Technician  Class  Study. This  supplemental                                                                   
     request funds  a Letter of Grievance  Resolution between                                                                   
     the  State and  the Alaska  State Employees  Association                                                                   
     (ASEA)  related to  step placement  of employees  during                                                                   
     implementation  of a classification study  for Forestry-                                                                   
     specific job  classes.  The retroactive  operating costs                                                                   
     for 20 Wildland  Fire Dispatcher positions  is $47.5 for                                                                   
     FY07, and  current-year FY08 costs are  $61.7, resulting                                                                   
     in   this   supplemental   request   of   $109.2.      A                                                                   
     corresponding  FY09 budget  amendment of  $61.7 will  be                                                                   
     requested.                                        $109.2                                                                   
Ms. Simons  explained  that the  request is  for a Letter  of                                                                   
Grievance  Resolution   between  the  state  and   ASEA  over                                                                   
implementation of the Forest Technician Class Study.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Sections 10-12       Natural Resources      Capital                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Eagle River Nature Center Planning and Design Study                                                                        
                                                       $117.2                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons turned  to a capital request to  collect statutory                                                                   
designated program  receipts from the Friends  of Eagle River                                                                   
Nature  Center   which  have  received  HUD   funding.    The                                                                   
Department of  Natural Resources  is requesting the  money in                                                                   
order to start on the design and  construction portion of the                                                                   
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:45:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 29(a)     Ratification     Natural Resources                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Fire Suppression Activity - $7,055,162,87                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons talked about a request  for ratification for FY 07                                                                   
for fire suppression activity.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked about  why the request  regarding the                                                                   
Letter  of  Grievance  Resolution  was not  included  in  the                                                                   
operating  budget.    Ms. Simons  responded  that  they  were                                                                   
services  that took  place  in FY  07 and  FY  08.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Stedman thought it  should be moved to the  operating budget.                                                                   
Ms. Simons replied that the operating  budget only deals with                                                                   
FY 09 expenses.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked what  hardship  would  occur if  the                                                                   
request regarding the Eagle River  Nature Center was moved to                                                                   
the capital budget.   Ms. Simons reported that  DNR was asked                                                                   
to expedite  the item in order  to get the design  started as                                                                   
soon  as possible  due  to the  expiration  date  of the  HUD                                                                   
funding.  Co-Chair Stedman maintained  that it should go into                                                                   
the  capital budget.    He  emphasized that  the  legislature                                                                   
needs to  make the  budget more  transparent and not  include                                                                   
items of convenience.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:49:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson spoke  to the same item.  He  wondered if there                                                                   
was a  deadline for  the funding obtained  by the  Friends of                                                                   
Eagle  River Nature  Center.   Ms.  Simons  talked about  the                                                                   
timeline  for completion  of  the Center  and  the HUD  grant                                                                   
expiration date.  Senator Olson  asked how long the group has                                                                   
known  about  the deadline.    Ms.  Simons replied  that  the                                                                   
department was informed in November.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:50:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Sections 8-9     Education     Student and School Achievement                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Correction   of  late  session   transactions   for  TRS                                                                   
     solution  that erroneously cut  the component  twice for                                                                   
     the GF reduction desired.   This is reflected in section                                                                   
     8, the departmental fund  source list.              $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 Sections 8-9     Education     Head Start Grants                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Correction of late session transactions for TRS                                                                            
     solution that erroneously cut component twice for the                                                                      
     GF reduction  desired.  This is reflected  in section 8,                                                                   
     the departmental fund source  list.                 $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 Sections 8-9     Education     Mt. Edgecumbe High School                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Correction   of  late  session   transactions   for  TRS                                                                   
     solution  that erroneously cut  component twice  for the                                                                   
     GF reduction  desired.  This is reflected  in section 8,                                                                   
     the departmental fund source  list.                 $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARK LEWIS, DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                   
EDUCATION AND EARLY DEVELOPMENT,  turned to the adjustment of                                                                   
funding  related to  the  Teachers' Retirement  System  (TRS)                                                                   
within the  Student and School  Achievement, Head  Start, and                                                                   
Mt.  Edgecumbe High  School components.   These  transactions                                                                   
inadvertently  removed general funds  from the base  numbers.                                                                   
The  supplemental  items  correct the  transactions  and  the                                                                   
associated funding sources.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 22     Education     School Performance Incentive                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     If  the  amount  necessary  to  pay  school  performance                                                                   
     incentives  exceeds the  amount  appropriated for  FY08,                                                                   
     the additional  amount necessary  is appropriated.   The                                                                   
     department won't  know the final amount  until after the                                                                   
     legislature   has  adjourned.     Similar  language   is                                                                   
     included in the FY09 operating  budget.             $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lewis  spoke  about  the  School  Performance  Incentive                                                                   
Program which was established  under AS 14.03.126 as a three-                                                                   
year pilot program.  It is currently  in the second year with                                                                   
a budget  of  $2.5 million.   The  FY 08  budget request  was                                                                   
originally for  $5.8 million, but  it was reduced  during the                                                                   
last  session by  $3.3 million.    As a  new program,  actual                                                                   
costs cannot be  projected with total accuracy.   The finance                                                                   
subcommittees  recommended reviewing this  request in  the FY                                                                   
09  budget  cycle.    This  language   section  provides  the                                                                   
mechanism to fund  this pilot program in order  to distribute                                                                   
the awards as  intended within established  statutory limits.                                                                   
The estimated additional funding  required is projected to be                                                                   
$1.6 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:52:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 23     Fish and Game                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Carry forward of federal  indirect cost plan receipts to                                                                   
     include  the FY07  unexpended  and unobligated  balance.                                                                   
     Similar language is included  in the FY09 budget.   $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TOM LAWSON, DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                   
FISH AND  GAME, explained the  language section that  fixes a                                                                   
cash flow  issue to  allowing unspent  revenue to be  carried                                                                   
forward.  It would allow the indirect  revenue to more evenly                                                                   
be spread between fiscal years.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins  asked what  the  process  would be  to  re-                                                                   
install a fish  weir that had been cut from the  budget.  Mr.                                                                   
Lawson said efforts  were being made to cover that  cost as a                                                                   
capital  budget item  or by  re-arranging existing  revenues.                                                                   
Senator  Huggins   requested   more  information  about   the                                                                   
decision cycle.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked Mr. Lawson to comment  on the federal                                                                   
fund withdrawal of $7.5 million  out of the operating budget.                                                                   
Mr.  Lawson  explained that  the  federal  FY 08  budget  was                                                                   
passed in  January with cuts  to NOA.   He reported  that the                                                                   
Department of Fish and Game was  communicating with OMB as to                                                                   
how to  address that.   He noted  that the Governor's  budget                                                                   
would address those issues.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:56:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 24     Labor     Commissioner's Office                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The $850.0  fiscal note  for ch. 22,  SLA 2007  (HB 177,                                                                   
     AGIA)  was appropriated  in sec.  2, ch.  28, SLA  2007,                                                                   
     page 44,  line 22.   The department  will not  spend the                                                                   
     entire amount  in FY08, therefore they request  that the                                                                   
     lapse date  be extended through  June 30, 2009  in order                                                                   
     to  complete  the work  with  the estimated  balance  of                                                                   
     $250.0.                                             $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GUY BELL,  ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER  AND DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF                                                                   
ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES, DEPARTMENT  OF LABOR AND  WORKFORCE                                                                   
DEVELOPMENT,  discussed a  request  to extend  a fiscal  note                                                                   
appropriation  for  developing  the training  required  under                                                                   
AGIA.  The initial report on phase  one will be released this                                                                   
week.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:59:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 16     Governor     Elections                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     This request  includes $278.2 GF and $120.1  in HAVA CIP                                                                   
     Rcpts  for   personal  services   for  three   new  base                                                                   
     operating  positions and  26 temporary positions  needed                                                                   
     for petitions  processing relating  to the FY09  primary                                                                   
     election   ballot.    Contractual   includes   $76.4  in                                                                   
     printing,  forms  and  training costs  relating  to  the                                                                   
     upcoming  statewide  primary  election;  $10.9  one-time                                                                   
     costs  for  Deltana incorporation,  $12.0  for  Wrangell                                                                   
     incorporation, and  $6.0 for REAA #18  recall elections;                                                                   
     $20.0  for legal costs  relating to  the Nick  case; and                                                                   
     increased  base  operating costs  of  $7.0 for  postage,                                                                   
     $23.5  for  maintenance  and  licensing  increases,  and                                                                   
     $30.1  for  office  and storage  space  increased  lease                                                                   
     costs.    The  base  operating   increases  in  personal                                                                   
     services  and  contractual  are  included  in  the  FY09                                                                   
     operating budget request.                           $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GAIL  FENUMIAI, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  ELECTIONS, OFFICE  OF                                                                   
THE  LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR,  explained  a  request which  deals                                                                   
with election  funding.  The  division has seen  an increased                                                                   
work  load   over  the  years   and  new  staff   is  needed.                                                                   
Additional funds  are being  requested for contractual  items                                                                   
and increased costs.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  asked how many  total positions  there would                                                                   
be, including the three new ones.   Ms. Fenumiai replied that                                                                   
there would be a total of 33 permanent,  full-time positions,                                                                   
including some that are funded with federal funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RECESSED:      11:02:07 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The  meeting  was recessed  at  11:02  AM  until 9:00  AM  on                                                                   
February 12, 2008.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    9:01:55 AM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  REHFELD, DIRECTOR,  OFFICE OF  MANAGEMENT AND  BUDGET,                                                                   
introduced Dan Spencer from the  Department of Public Safety.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:02:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9    Public Safety      Fire Prevention Operations                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     RSS shortfall from building  plan review fees.  Division                                                                   
     would  like to make  this into  a straight GF  operation                                                                   
     since revenues  vary drastically.  Included  in the FY09                                                                   
     budget at  the same level  of $220.0  Additional  travel                                                                   
     of  $50.0 for building  life safety  inspections  and to                                                                   
     provide inspections  in rural locations. Funded  in FY09                                                                   
     at  $105.0.   Increased  fuel/utility  $8.3 and  vehicle                                                                   
     $4.8 costs.  FY09 fuel/utility cost increment is $4.5.                                                                     
                                                       $281.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAN SPENCER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF   PUBLIC  SAFETY,  referred  to   three  basic                                                                   
categories  of  cost  increases: fuel  and  utility,  vehicle                                                                   
operation  and replacement,  and leases.   There  has been  a                                                                   
high  vacancy rate  in uniform  positions  and new  positions                                                                   
have been  added.  The Department  of Public Safety  has been                                                                   
able to absorb cost increases until now.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  acknowledged success  with the new  Alaska State                                                                   
Trooper Academies.   All  positions will  be filled  that are                                                                   
currently  vacant.   A  number of  cost  increases have  been                                                                   
absorbed over the years which now require back filling.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spenser  explained  the largest requests  needed  to fund                                                                   
fire prevention operations: an  anticipated revenue shortfall                                                                   
and  money for  increased travel  for  safety inspections  in                                                                   
rural communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  continued to explain that  municipal governments                                                                   
can hold their  own building plan reviews and  the department                                                                   
would not get that revenue.  At  this point, the shortfall is                                                                   
about $220,000.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:09:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Public Safety     Fire Service Training                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  fuel/utility  $8.3  and vehicle  $9.4  costs.                                                                   
     FY09 fuel/utility cost increment is $9.6.          $17.7                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained the request  for additional  funds for                                                                   
Fire  Service  Training due  to  increased fuel  and  utility                                                                   
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9   Public Safety   Alaska State  Troopers/Special                                                                   
Projects                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Replace  federal Rural Alcohol  Interdiction Team  funds                                                                   
     for part year.   Fund change is included in  FY09 in the                                                                   
     amount of $870.0.                                 $150.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  related that the  request is to  replace federal                                                                   
Rural Alcohol Interdiction team funds.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9   Public Safety    Judicial Services - Anchorage                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Assume  Anchorage prisoner  transport  duties.   Assumes                                                                   
     December 2007  hire date for six new positions.   Covers                                                                   
     one-time  purchases and  share of  annual expenses.   If                                                                   
     one-time  costs are  not funded  here, additional  funds                                                                   
     will be  needed in FY09.   In the FY09 budget  at $656.3                                                                   
     for a full year's costs,  but that does not include one-                                                                   
     time costs.                                       $620.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  reported that  several years  ago the  state and                                                                   
Anchorage entered  an agreement regarding  prisoner transport                                                                   
duties.   The request  is for  hiring six  new positions  and                                                                   
beginning to transport  prisoners.  This line  may be reduced                                                                   
if not all positions are hired.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:11:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9   Public Safety   Prisoner Transportation                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Increased prisoner transports  costs.  FY09 increment is                                                                   
     in the same amount.                               $455.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  noted that  the  request  is due  to  increased                                                                   
prisoner transport costs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Public Safety     Rural Trooper Housing                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Rural  housing costs  of $244.2  due to unrealized  SDPR                                                                   
     including  leases without  rent contribution at  Selawik                                                                   
     and  for Bethel  commons.   Increased  fuel and  utility                                                                   
     costs  of $92.7.   FY09 fuel/utility  cost increment  is                                                                   
     $147.1.                                           $336.9                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer referred to the request  for housing for troopers                                                                   
in  rural  communities.    When housing  is  left  vacant  no                                                                   
revenue is  coming in for  the department. This  request also                                                                   
covers increased fuel and utility costs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Public Safety      AST Detachments                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Increased trooper move costs  $425.0, dispatch contracts                                                                   
     with  Kodiak and  Wasilla (MatCom)  $420.3, lease  costs                                                                   
     $60.6, fuel/utility costs  $236.2, vehicle costs $610.9,                                                                   
     and   facilities   maintenance   costs  $25.5.      FY09                                                                   
     increments  are:  trooper   move  travel  $425.0;  lease                                                                   
     $60.6; fuel/utility $164.9; and vehicle $113.9.                                                                            
                                                     $1,778,5                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer explained the increase  in rural trooper transfer                                                                   
costs and dispatch contracts.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:13:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9  Public Safety    Alaska Bureau of Investigation                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Increased   lease   costs.     No   corresponding   FY09                                                                   
     increment.                                         $17.5                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  continued to explain  increased lease  costs for                                                                   
the Alaska Bureau of Investigation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Public Safety       Alaska Wildlife Troopers                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Increased   fuel/utility  $70.8,   vehicle  $288.6   and                                                                   
     facilities  maintenance $17.1  costs.   FY09  increments                                                                   
     are: fuel/utility $38.6;  vehicle $145.3.         $376.5                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  addressed the increase  in costs for  the Alaska                                                                   
Wildlife Troopers.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9   Public Safety   AK Wildlife Troopers  Aircraft                                                                   
Enforcement                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Increased   fuel/utility  $70.8,   vehicle  $288.6   and                                                                   
     facilities  maintenance $17.1  costs.   FY09  increments                                                                   
     are: fuel/utility $38.6;  vehicle $145.3.         $174.5                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  mentioned  Alaska  Wildlife  Troopers  Aircraft                                                                   
Enforcement  and  the  increased  fuel,  utility,  and  lease                                                                   
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9    Public Safety    AK Wildlife  Troopers Marine                                                                   
Enforcement                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Increased fuel/utility costs.   FY09 increment is $66.0.                                                                   
                                                        $41.6                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer explained  the Alaska  Wildlife Troopers  Marine                                                                   
Enforcement increases in fuel and utility costs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Sections  7-9    Public  Safety     Domestic  Violence/Sexual                                                                   
Assault                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     CDVSA received an unanticipated  Rural Domestic Violence                                                                   
     and Child  Victimization (RDVCV) grant in  October 2007.                                                                   
     The  majority of  projects  from another  federal  grant                                                                   
     (GTEA) fell  into FY08 as  well, leading to  a shortfall                                                                   
     in federal authority.                             $230.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer   noted  the  shortfall  in   federal  authority                                                                   
regarding grants.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:14:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9   Public Safety   Training Academy                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  fuel/utility $5.2  and  vehicle $11.6  costs.                                                                   
     FY09 increment for fuel/utility  costs is $8.2.    $16.8                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  noted increased fuel  and utility costs  for the                                                                   
Training Academy.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Public Safety     Administrative Services                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  fuel/utility $2.6,  lease  $9.2, and  vehicle                                                                   
     $2.2  costs.  FY09  increment is  $9.2 for office  lease                                                                   
     costs.                                             $14.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  noted  increases   in  Administrative  services                                                                   
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9    Public  Safety    Alcoholic Beverage  Control                                                                   
Board                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Increased vehicle costs.   FY09 increment is $1.9.  $4.3                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer pointed to increased costs to the ABC Board.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Public Safety     Laboratory Services                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Increased  fuel/utility $15.5  and  vehicle $8.9  costs.                                                                   
     FY09  increments  are: fuel/utility  $21.0  and  vehicle                                                                   
     $4.3.                                              $24.4                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer noted increased costs for Laboratory Services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section 29(b)(8)  Public Safety   Ratification                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Fire Standards Council - $71.01                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  concluded with  a ratification  of $71.01  for a                                                                   
typographical error.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:15:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested more  information about  prisoner                                                                   
transportation  duties and costs  in Anchorage.   Mr. Spencer                                                                   
elaborated on the high volume  business of the transportation                                                                   
of  prisoners  in  Anchorage.   He  offered  to  provide  the                                                                   
settlement agreement to the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  pointed out that  the funds do  not include                                                                   
transporting  prisoners to  Arizona.   Mr. Spencer said  that                                                                   
the  second request  does include  transporting prisoners  to                                                                   
other  states.  All  forms  of   transportation  are  on  the                                                                   
increase.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  there was  a need  to look at  the                                                                   
flight service issue.   There is a need for  more information                                                                   
on transportation issues.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  noted the request for $1,750,000  for prisoner                                                                   
transportation  costs in the supplemental  budget.   He asked                                                                   
what was requested in the regular budget.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer said  that  $2.1 million  was  requested in  the                                                                   
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  added that  Anchorage prisoner  transportation                                                                   
costs are in addition to the $4  million already budgeted for                                                                   
Anchorage prisoners.   He termed  the supplemental  request a                                                                   
small  part  of  the  subsidy   the  state  is  providing  to                                                                   
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer did  not know what the Department  of Corrections                                                                   
charges were.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton wondered  why  the Department  of  Corrections                                                                   
personnel were  able to transport prisoners cheaper  than the                                                                   
Department  of Public  Safety personnel.   Mr. Spencer  could                                                                   
not comment  on the cost  difference.  Senator  Elton thought                                                                   
that issue should be looked into.   Mr. Spencer said that the                                                                   
duties of a Department of Corrections  Transportation Officer                                                                   
differ from that of a Court Services Officer.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:22:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  said he has  heard that Village  Public Safety                                                                   
Officers want more  backup.  He questioned what  would be the                                                                   
appropriate number  of state troopers.   He offered  the idea                                                                   
of  10  more  hires  and  a 10  percent  pay  increase.    He                                                                   
requested input from the department  on that idea and what it                                                                   
would cost.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman questioned  the  requests for  supplemental                                                                   
money for  utility costs  and lease costs.   He wondered  why                                                                   
those were not in the regular operating budget.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:25:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  reiterated  that  the department  was  able  to                                                                   
forestall requesting money in  the past because of vacancies,                                                                   
but now  the department plans  to fill all positions  and new                                                                   
costs have emerged.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  referred to the 34 dispatch  contracts with                                                                   
Kodiak and Wasilla.   He wondered if the contracts  were with                                                                   
the cities.   He pointed out that Bethel has  been requesting                                                                   
similar  contracts and  providing services  to the  troopers.                                                                   
Bethel  has  been  absorbing those  costs,  which  they  feel                                                                   
should be  paid by the state.   The state has  been unwilling                                                                   
to do this.  He questioned if there was a double standard.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer said he was not familiar  with Bethel's requests.                                                                   
He reported that  other communities have asked  for increases                                                                   
and the  department is  working with  those communities.   He                                                                   
offered to research that information.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:28:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  requested more information about  the increase                                                                   
of  $425,000  in moving  costs.    Mr. Spencer  replied  that                                                                   
moving cost increases  have accumulated over the  years.  The                                                                   
department pays for moving officers  around the state and for                                                                   
household goods up to 15,000 pounds.   The cost of moving has                                                                   
gone up all over the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson disagreed  with the  department's practice  of                                                                   
filling the budget with vacancies.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He commented that a lot of alcohol  was still getting through                                                                   
to  the villages.    He  questioned if  there  was  a way  to                                                                   
measure the  effectiveness of the Rural  Alcohol Interdiction                                                                   
Team  funds.   Mr.  Spencer  reported that  the  interdiction                                                                   
efforts  are showing  good results.   He  offered to  provide                                                                   
that information to the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:32:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  addressed the concern about  absorbing vacancies                                                                   
savings to pay for other items,  and he assured the committee                                                                   
that  the department  was  making every  effort  to fill  the                                                                   
positions, trooper  as well as  support positions.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Hoffman  recommended the  department  look at  other ways  to                                                                   
save money.   Mr. Spencer wanted  to start the year  with the                                                                   
intent to  fill positions and  when they are not  filled, the                                                                   
department would  go to a revised  plan.  He  emphasized that                                                                   
the department is not trying to conceal anything.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:35:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson questioned how much  of the CDVSA money will go                                                                   
to  shelters.   Mr. Spencer  replied  that all  of it  would.                                                                   
Senator  Olson requested  a full  list  of how  the money  is                                                                   
allocated.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson inquired  about when  the six  recommendations                                                                   
for the  VPSO Task force,  especially the community  stipends                                                                   
and pay  raises, might be  implemented.  Mr.  Spencer replied                                                                   
that he  has not met with  the commissioner yet and  does not                                                                   
have an answer  right now, but he offered to get  back to the                                                                   
committee on it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked if there is  a carry over for this fiscal                                                                   
year for  the VPSO  program.  Mr.  Spencer thought  there was                                                                   
probably  some money  left  over.   In  the  past there  were                                                                   
several  federal appropriations  to  increase  the number  of                                                                   
VPSO's, but  now the state  is not able  to spend  that money                                                                   
because  of  federal  rules.     Mr.  Spencer  remarked  that                                                                   
recently more than  $5 million has been freed  up to increase                                                                   
the number  of VPSO's.   Senator Olson understood  that there                                                                   
was about  a $1 million carry  over and he requested  that it                                                                   
be implemented as soon as possible.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson underscored the  suggestion to regularly review                                                                   
existing  mission statements  in statute  and the  mechanisms                                                                   
for effectiveness of programs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:40:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Revenue     Tax Division                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Implementation of Tax Division's fiscal note for                                                                           
     Chapter 1, SSSLA 2007 (HB 2001), which passed during                                                                       
     the   second  special   session   in   2007  absent   an                                                                   
     appropriations  bill.   Beginning in  January 2008,  the                                                                   
     department  will begin  incurring  costs to  immediately                                                                   
     implement  the  new  production tax  structure.    These                                                                   
     costs include:  Personal services  - $275.8 for  the new                                                                   
     exempt  class of  oil and  gas revenue  auditors and  an                                                                   
     additional  analyst  programmer;  Supplies  -  $6.0  for                                                                   
     analyst programmer's computer  and software; Contractual                                                                   
     - $506.6 for audit assistance.                    $788.4                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JERRY   BURNETT,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,   DEPARTMENT   OF    REVENUE,   referred   to   the                                                                   
implementation of  the fiscal note for the  ACES legislation,                                                                   
HB 2001.   The bill  was effective on  December 20,  2007, so                                                                   
some of  the contracting services  for audit assistance  have                                                                   
already  been expended.    The positions  have  not yet  been                                                                   
hired.  The expense represents  between three and four months                                                                   
of personal services costs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Revenue      Treasury                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Investment  management services  for the Retiree  Health                                                                   
     Insurance  Major  Medical Fund.   Management  costs  are                                                                   
     increasing  as the assets  under management  are growing                                                                   
     (35.9% in FY2007 from $152.4  to $207.1 million).  $15.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett  reported  the need  for  additional  funds  for                                                                   
investment management  services for Retiree  Health Insurance                                                                   
Major Medical Fund due to increased management costs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Sections  7-9         Revenue        Alaska  Housing  Finance                                                                   
Corporation                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     4%  wage  increase  and  health  insurance  increase  of                                                                   
     $28.78 from $851 to $879.78                     $1,262.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett addressed the 4 percent  wage increase and health                                                                   
insurance  increase  for  AHFC employees,  which  mirror  the                                                                   
general government unit pay increases.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Revenue     AHFC                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Wage and  health insurance  increase fund source  switch                                                                   
     to 100% Corp Rcpts.                                 $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett said that this item  is a switch from $417,000 in                                                                   
federal funds to other funds.   AHFC recognizes their federal                                                                   
funds as corporate receipts.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:42:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 7-9     Revenue     Permanent Corporation                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      Custody Management Fees                      $6,000.0                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett overviewed  the  $6 million  custody  management                                                                   
fees for the Permanent Fund Corporation.   Those are based on                                                                   
increased  costs  for  certain  asset  allocations  based  on                                                                   
expected increases on fund balance.   Anything not spent will                                                                   
revert to the Permanent Fund.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 17(a)       Debt: Fund Capitalization    Oil  and Gas                                                                   
Tax Credit Fund                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Increased oil and gas tax  credits from $25 million that                                                                   
     was  appropriated  in  the  FY08 budget  to  an  updated                                                                   
     estimated maximum need of  $150 million. The new oil and                                                                   
     gas tax  credit fund was  established in ACES  for these                                                                   
     credits.                                      $125,000.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett reported  on the debt fund capitalization  of the                                                                   
oil and  gas tax credit  fund to  pay for refundable  credits                                                                   
created in HB 2001.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 17(b)       Debt: Fund Capitalization    Oil  and Gas                                                                   
Tax Credit Fund                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Reappropriate the balance  of the $25 million tax credit                                                                   
     appropriation  to the new  Oil and  Gas Tax Credit  Fund                                                                   
     that  was created by  ACES.   The Department of  Revenue                                                                   
     expects a balance of approximately  $4.2 million.   $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett noted that this item  is a reappropriation of the                                                                   
balance  of the $25  million general  fund appropriation  for                                                                   
tax credits  in the FY 08  budget.  The department  expects a                                                                   
balance of about $4 million by the time the bill passes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 18(a)       Debt: Reimbursement    Jail  Construction                                                                   
Reimbursement                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Reimbursement   to  the   Municipality  of  Kodiak   for                                                                   
     expansion  of   the  Kodiak  jail.  Kodiak   will  start                                                                   
     construction this  season, but can't  finalize contracts                                                                   
     without secured  funding. This reimbursement  is per Ch.                                                                   
     160 (SB65), SLA 2004.                           $2,000.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett related that the jail  construction reimbursement                                                                   
in matching  funds to Kodiak  comes from an authorization  in                                                                   
SB 65.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 18(b)    Debt: Debt Reimbursement   Jail Construction                                                                   
Reimbursement                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Reimbursement of design and  site selection costs of the                                                                   
     Pt.  Mackenzie  Correctional  Center to  the  Matanuska-                                                                   
     Susitna Borough through AHFC.                   $2,500.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett explained  the jail  construction  reimbursement                                                                   
for the  Mat-Su Borough through  AHFC.  It was  intended that                                                                   
these costs be financed in the bond sale.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 19    Revenue    AHFC                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Correct   the  bond  authorization   citation   in  sec.                                                                   
     8(b)(2), ch.  28, SLA 2007,  page 65, line 20,  from ch.                                                                   
     2, SSSLA  2002, the FY03 GO  Bond bill, to ch.  1, SSSLA                                                                   
     2002,  the FY03  capital budget  bill.   The AHFC  bonds                                                                   
     were  authorized in  sec.  1, page  46,  of the  capital                                                                   
     budget bill.                                        $0.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett  reported  that this  is  a  technical  language                                                                   
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:45:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 28(b)     Debt: Debt Service     GO Bonds                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     On April  15, 2003  the state issued  the series  2003 A                                                                   
     (Education  and Museum and  regular transportation)  and                                                                   
     2003 B  (Accelerated Transportation) general  obligation                                                                   
     bonds. These bonds did not  incur any positive arbitrage                                                                   
     in the first  three years of the funds'  lives. On April                                                                   
     15,   2006  (the  three-year   anniversary)  the   funds                                                                   
     remaining  in the  project  accounts  became subject  to                                                                   
     yield  reduction payment  based on  the arbitrage  yield                                                                   
     limit  plus 1/8  of a  percent, which  is 3.96266299  in                                                                   
     this case. From April 15  to November 30 there have been                                                                   
     earnings  that correlate  to a  $1.5 million  liability.                                                                   
     Extrapolating  this  amount  forward  to  the  five-year                                                                   
     computation  date of April 15,  2008, there might  be as                                                                   
     much  as $4  million in  yield reduction  due within  60                                                                   
     days  of  the  computation   date  (June  14,  2008).  A                                                                   
     supplemental  to   appropriate  up  to  $4   million  in                                                                   
     earnings of  the 2003 A and  B bond proceeds to  be paid                                                                   
     from the  funds based on actual liability  generation is                                                                   
     necessary  to pay  the yield reduction  payment  that is                                                                   
     expected to be due in FY2008.                   $4,050.0                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  concluded by  explaining the general  obligation                                                                   
for miscellaneous  earnings for  an arbitrage payment  to the                                                                   
IRS based on expected excess earnings  on bond proceeds being                                                                   
held  from   2003  education,  museum,  transportation,   and                                                                   
accelerated   transportation  bonds.     This  liability   is                                                                   
expected when calculations are done in June.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:46:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested more information on  why that was                                                                   
a time-critical  issue,  if the  conclusion will  be made  in                                                                   
June.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  reported that  the calculation  will be  done on                                                                   
June 14 and the  payment must be done within 60  days of that                                                                   
date.   The money  is for FY  08 and  before, so the  payment                                                                   
should not be in  the FY 09 budget.  Co-Chair  Stedman agreed                                                                   
it was important to keep the fiscal years lined up.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered if that  concept applied to the tax                                                                   
credits for  the oil and  gas tax credit  fund.   Mr. Burnett                                                                   
replied that  for those  the state expects  to pay  about $21                                                                   
million prior  to the end of  April.  Between the  annual tax                                                                   
filing date and  the end of the fiscal year, there  will be a                                                                   
number  of  claims calculated  and  certificates  issued  and                                                                   
paid.   Without  this supplemental  appropriation, the  state                                                                   
would be paying for FY 08 earned  tax credits.  The amount of                                                                   
$125 million would be used between April and August.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:48:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   noted  that   the  credits  were   a  new                                                                   
mechanism.   He questioned if,  in the future,  these credits                                                                   
could be fully funded in the regular  operating budget with a                                                                   
balance carry  forward at  the end of  the fiscal year.   Mr.                                                                   
Burnett affirmed  they would be  fully funded in  each budget                                                                   
cycle, with the hope of no shortfall.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  requested   a  further  breakdown  of  the                                                                   
numbers  in order  to get a  clearer picture  of each  fiscal                                                                   
year.  Mr. Burnett clarified that  valid FY 08 bills are paid                                                                   
up through August 31.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:51:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  asked if the debt reimbursement  request for                                                                   
jail construction  was in  last year's  budget.  Mr.  Burnett                                                                   
replied that originally  there was $28 million  in the budget                                                                   
which was vetoed.  There was money  left in the budget - bond                                                                   
proceeds - to pay for this; however,  the bonds have not been                                                                   
sold, which is  why this is a general fund.   Senator Huggins                                                                   
emphasized  that the money  that was  vetoed could  have been                                                                   
used against  this debt.  Mr.  Burnett agreed, had  the money                                                                   
been real.   It  was an  authorization to  use bond  proceeds                                                                   
which could not have been sold.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  believed that in  SB 65 the intent  was for                                                                   
the  municipalities to  pay for  the  construction of  jails.                                                                   
The state  would then contract  with the municipalities  once                                                                   
the   facilities   were   built.     The   two   supplemental                                                                   
appropriations  appear to  be grants  to the  municipalities.                                                                   
He wondered  if the  appropriations follow  the intent  of SB
165.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:53:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett believed  they did.   He  said that  the one  to                                                                   
Kodiak was  meant to be  a grant.   He explained  the expense                                                                   
involved with the  COP issue.  Co-Chair Hoffman  suggested it                                                                   
could be  wrapped into a larger  COP.  Mr.  Burnett clarified                                                                   
Kodiak's plan.  Mat-Su costs can no longer be financed.  Co-                                                                    
Chair Hoffman replied that he was co-sponsor of SB 165 and                                                                      
needed to look at other municipalities' requests for COP's.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       9:55:24 AM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    10:45:49 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:46 AM.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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